Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqznH-0003FF-U4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:02:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqznG-0003Wx-T0 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:02:26 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqznG-0003Wq-Lg for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:02:26 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jqzn5-0002FQ-RN for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:02:26 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 062E1RgW850484; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:01:27 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andrew Dunstan cc: Stephen Frost , Noah Misch , Robert Haas , Chapman Flack , Peter Eisentraut , Joe Nelson , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: POC: rational number type (fractions) In-reply-to: <75123976-d1ac-0170-0193-be41d3655cbf@2ndQuadrant.com> References: <20200208042554.GE42864@begriffs.com> <0e2422da-953b-6b96-1900-f67c7e5e3307@2ndquadrant.com> <5EC3031C.6020105@anastigmatix.net> <20552.1589840076@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20200522055332.GA1296415@rfd.leadboat.com> <57d0e68d-2706-60a3-f020-ba4c8fd4b64b@2ndQuadrant.com> <20200701203246.GX3125@tamriel.snowman.net> <812520.1593643251@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20200701230007.GC3125@tamriel.snowman.net> <75123976-d1ac-0170-0193-be41d3655cbf@2ndQuadrant.com> Comments: In-reply-to Andrew Dunstan message dated "Thu, 02 Jul 2020 08:59:01 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <850482.1593698487.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:01:27 -0400 Message-ID: <850483.1593698487@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Andrew Dunstan writes: > On 7/1/20 7:00 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: >> ... extensions outside of PG simply don't thrive as independent projects. >> >> There's various potential reasons for that, from being hard to find, to >> being hard to install and work with, to the fact that we don't have a >> centralized extension system (PGXN isn't really endorsed at all by >> core... and I don't really think it should be), and our general >> extension management system isn't particularly great anyway. > Then these are things we should fix. But the right fix isn't including > every extension in the core code. Yeah. We *must not* simply give up on extensibility and decide that every interesting feature has to be in core. I don't have any great ideas about how we grow the wider Postgres development community and infrastructure, but that certainly isn't the path to doing so. regards, tom lane