Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vcp3Z-00BBy4-1O for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:11:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vcp3X-003LaR-1Y for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:11:52 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vcp3W-003LaG-1s for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:11:51 +0000 Received: from fout-b7-smtp.messagingengine.com ([202.12.124.150]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vcp3T-004j8d-34 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:11:50 +0000 Received: from phl-compute-04.internal (phl-compute-04.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailfout.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FD91D00030; Mon, 5 Jan 2026 13:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from phl-frontend-03 ([10.202.2.162]) by phl-compute-04.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 05 Jan 2026 13:11:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ilmari.org; h=cc :cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1767636705; x=1767723105; bh=vN9Ouqqd9a acoH506E0dx0r5iKzTeCtKQomnB2C1G48=; b=H9Od9hS5lLyQf/uZazWfnvklUh cZwQoH0TygbW4gd/fMB9I7mq0DVKksDU57OmJOB/IjoQA7NDBMH/9SyzPmmWC3DO A0pA3A/xHz9Jr2loS27HUpG9SyrsrwKfD4jW6pwOgk2m0FMnaXJA78KcqX/tWdu1 bnt7Zj7XD9vSwY3mE8qpHR+YdiC8t8yKHeplZPY/kdpp47xCvuDvq73umSNUN3Pg sfUPGwJ1tHMseG8Ajd/oivpL7L1uPagBLCRJNFqC+pbddbKBixRTgWfdQL6wAgcr AOmf7L1dhar2P99kA2qm1CmWaIgHVjrfXRSjiL2zfET9G8Z5Q6ayjQvlgcBg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1767636705; x=1767723105; bh=vN9Ouqqd9aacoH506E0dx0r5iKzTeCtKQom nB2C1G48=; b=UjK8gAudCNxNozP+HHRt+herj2nonJtTV7b6/0GomzPvK1okMTF 5S7aqNp1XNndlmwpr3T/HH8K6zrMJ2W8H4lqz4HLK/evs5fYbD8DpNEtLTlF2QJ9 /NFnv9B4vduug85LRCzz7RyTi+aoZEOslpQ3AXwS7bTKbW/jZvBmIoJUY1DQSbOO Mg82Mt+QYzPfXO8o4L4RKv77b/lHpZXuEfQeW6M98rPtf3ge/82wuRzbDg9fgAMt EfK1JjRtEy+dTp/7+2kUVf62IrV9tqFuS0d4zWyRJLwhQfUo5tsfV/RcGBVIdytH jSR4kqXTdljxTHx7XmXdgYh3YwkBs8nAuAQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefgedrtddtgdeljeellecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjug hrpefhvfevufhfffgjkfgfgggtsehttdertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghgfhhinhhn ucfklhhmrghrihcuofgrnhhnshonkhgvrhcuoehilhhmrghrihesihhlmhgrrhhirdhorh hgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefgteegtdeffffhgeeiffefieejheejgefhudfgfefh keevudeuudevheetfeetgeenucffohhmrghinhepmhgvthgrtghprghnrdhorhhgnecuve hluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepihhlmhgrrhhi sehilhhmrghrihdrohhrghdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohephedpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouh htpdhrtghpthhtohepuggrnhhivghlseihvghsqhhlrdhsvgdprhgtphhtthhopehpghhs qhhlqdhhrggtkhgvrhhssehlihhsthhsrdhpohhsthhgrhgvshhqlhdrohhrghdprhgtph htthhopegrshhhuhhtohhshhdrsggrphgrthdrohhsshesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgt phhtthhopehtghhlsehsshhsrdhpghhhrdhprgdruhhspdhrtghpthhtohepphhoshhtgh hrvghssehjvghlthgvfhdrnhhl X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i1ff147bf:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 5 Jan 2026 13:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dagfinn_Ilmari_Manns=C3=A5ker?= To: Jelte Fennema-Nio Cc: Tom Lane , Ashutosh Bapat , PostgreSQL Hackers , Daniel Gustafsson Subject: Re: Add "format" target to make and ninja to run pgindent and pgperltidy References: <3913298.1767194804@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3940401.1767206241@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:11:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Jelte Fennema-Nio's message of "Thu, 1 Jan 2026 14:06:29 +0100") Message-ID: <875x9g53q9.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Jelte Fennema-Nio writes: > On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 at 19:37, Tom Lane wrote: >> As an affected committer, I want to push back against having such >> a requirement, because I don't think it is reasonable to require >> everybody to have precisely version XYZ of perltidy installed. >> If that's not the version provided by their platform-of-choice, >> it's an annoying hurdle. > > That's why I tried to make that hurdle as small as possible. All > that's needed with the current patchset is: > > wget https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SH/SHANCOCK/Perl-Tidy-20230309.tar.gz > cpanm -l $HOME/perltidy-20230309 Perl-Tidy-20230309.tar.gz You can ask cpanm to install a specific version without having to download the tarball manually or knowing who made the release and which archive format they used: cpanm -l $HOME/perltidy-20230309 Perl::Tidy@20230309 - ilmari