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Subject: Re: Solaris versus our NLS files
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 15:20:27 +0000
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Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> writes:

> On 2025-Dec-10, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote:
>
>> Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de> writes:
>
>> > Hmm, where do you see that file?  It was removed by commit 3c70de2e12b9
>> > from branch 12 in 2019, and has never existed since.
>> 
>> That translation commit was on the REL_12_STABLE branch, after it was
>> cut from master (after rc1, even).  Looking more closely, the
>> post-branch translation updates deleted it from version 12, 13, 14, and
>> 15, but not 16 onwards, and the file is still there in master:
>
> Oh.  Well, that's clearly a process failure, and the fix will require us
> deleting that file on all branches from 16 and up anyway, so I have no
> issues with the plan of requiring all message catalogs to be UTF-8.

Digging a bit more in the history of **/nb.po, there seems to be a
policy that files that are less than 80% translated are removed¹, and I
guess this file was just below the threshold on the 12-15 branches, but
just above the threshold on master and 16+.  The Norwegian translation
seems unmaintained², so I vote³ for removing it completely.

- ilmari

[1] https://git.postgresql.org/cgit/postgresql.git/commit/?id=a6667d96c5e4aca92612295d549541146dd6e74a
[2] https://git.postgresql.org/cgit/pgtranslation/messages.git/log/nb
[3] I am Norwegian, but I prefer to use computers in English