Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqi8h-00Bis1-62 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 01:06:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqi8g-00Ghpn-Gz for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 01:06:19 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uqi8g-00Ghpf-7J for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 01:06:18 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uqi8e-001rgH-2V for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 01:06:18 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 57Q16CMf971405; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:06:12 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Noah Misch cc: Andres Freund , Kirill Reshke , Alexander Lakhin , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Robert Haas Subject: Re: Test instability when pg_dump orders by OID In-reply-to: <20250826005724.ed.nmisch@google.com> References: <20250810163659.71.nmisch@google.com> <20250823052019.43.nmisch@google.com> <20250823144505.88.nmisch@google.com> <3th37rt7erqwk3rj63kozbbt2p2rxfg4inz54p77jvq7usojqu@vo2w2gdugz5w> <163245.1756050601@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20250824160816.06.nmisch@google.com> <20250826005724.ed.nmisch@google.com> Comments: In-reply-to Noah Misch message dated "Mon, 25 Aug 2025 17:57:24 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <971403.1756170372.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:06:12 -0400 Message-ID: <971404.1756170372@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Noah Misch writes: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 05:15:55PM -0400, Andres Freund wrote: >> I think it's also about removing painful manual testing - and imo manually >> running cross-version pg_upgrade tests is really rather painful. > I make the buildfarm client drive it. Yeah, same here. I have a BF instance lying around that's configured to do the cross-version pg_upgrade tests. It's not registered with the BF server, I just run it manually when I need to test that. regards, tom lane