Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rfNga-00HKJa-M3 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:25:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rfNgX-00D9Jk-Qq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:25:38 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rfNgX-00D9Jc-FC for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:25:38 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rfNgU-001pHW-V3 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:25:37 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7562FFB79D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from s980.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB782E2CAB0; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from s471.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s980.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A52C22016CE; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.21 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s471.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s934.loopia.se ([172.22.191.5]) by s471.loopia.se (s471.loopia.se [172.22.190.35]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8LMTP id sKjnYkYNV7u9; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:33 +0100 (CET) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s934.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F05187CEA76; Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:32 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1709141133; bh=41/p9ycx3Q3wdjyLE43gCxS/2xjCErado2FNohvhSAQ=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=vaw4VhHzaKBY90K5dnu1PZ9N4fgTUbFB7ZOWjPAwsLCV2F9F9AE5eKjbnJvCy7EJk BiEaCNfcMbjqB9mrOk/Vqr2H+v4A+onH1Di2d328mFwlrRxHSqF2+TP681xuzx3fTg 6B1Gx1P4Pl8plEzKLh24bG9NNNcyL9wDlmDZQ6MU8h6PotdYNDOH8w/MaCAfkbNxZU afwNDkEp88cqxGnuVQ3BdeiBSIC4TTZ3mDJKu1Mevgi+kkyabHa2thHj0QLyE4zzXA tLgkUpbainjYlGOidmIc3jkTQc2hpB2+LH8jcM52jZtbbd/pOXGCzlvPMUVFTEjCnH +wcMBf3Lz5L2g== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.4\)) Subject: Re: An improved README experience for PostgreSQL From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: <20240228170237.GB2435539@nathanxps13> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:25:32 +0100 Cc: Tom Lane , Andrew Atkinson , PostgreSQL Hackers , samay@tembo.io Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20240226183018.GA2109010@nathanxps13> <1967819.1708979436@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20240228170237.GB2435539@nathanxps13> To: Nathan Bossart X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.4) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 28 Feb 2024, at 18:02, Nathan Bossart = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 02:46:11PM +0100, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >>> On 26 Feb 2024, at 21:30, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Nathan Bossart writes: >>>> I think this would be nice. If the Markdown version is reasonably = readable >>>> as plain-text, maybe we could avoid maintaining two READMEs files, = too. >>>> But overall, +1 to modernizing the README a bit. >>>=20 >>> Per past track record, we change the top-level README only once = every >>> three years or so, so I doubt it'd be too painful to maintain two >>> versions of it. >>=20 >> It wont be, and we kind of already have two since there is another = similar >> README displayed at https://www.postgresql.org/ftp/. That being = said, a >> majority of those reading the README will likely be new developers = accustomed >> to Markdown (or doing so via interfaces such as Github) so going to = Markdown >> might not be a bad idea. We can also render a plain text version = with pandoc >> for release builds should we want to. >=20 > Sorry, my suggestion wasn't meant to imply that I have any strong = concerns > about maintaining two README files. If we can automate generating one = or > the other, that'd be great, but I don't see that as a prerequisite to > adding a Markdown version. Agreed, and I didn't say we should do it but rather that we can do it = based on the toolchain we already have. Personally I think just having a = Markdown version is enough, it's become the de facto standard for such = documentation for good reasons. -- Daniel Gustafsson