Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuhBz-0001bL-2a for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:08:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuhBx-0004h5-Gf for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:08:17 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuhBx-0004ay-73 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:08:17 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuhBq-0007lu-OT for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 27 May 2022 21:08:16 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id i74so5882487ioa.4 for ; Fri, 27 May 2022 14:08:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sIEreEn1R7P6QiuofacRXP2PqBIzW2qXDtoWriRwR6A=; b=GW7nWlN8QN34oxy3ac+1QJ9o1v3Sck0+8riRpR6oxPTqXGMEaoRKOPTdVfThjryXMt NlFzYEytotAO/YwmeNu5rOfN6CkW/84TGqzpqwSKyI5SBJomOATjrWYsbgEGXZdLXORM PxefUZ4g7GSriuDFlmJe7taKP7Coyb9Ov3yqoilKPZfjW/aimF0gonqI9deVfPn2YSLO 9rxV4Zg8n4ay3Z5DG6QD8yBZ1vvu96dQxubbY0fxh16qlsMJPqkBEoC0kZ9uubum9G2O LOK98ePIKY9z1J9Sk0ggUDy0nMJeCkMX61vRbZB77MOfwe+vfKiPFhCBNExwjtZLRZlK OHBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sIEreEn1R7P6QiuofacRXP2PqBIzW2qXDtoWriRwR6A=; b=tD6BSNgK8EDWQYfGsQFMRpe+FA09JQiGqLN71m91pqPZ+2Jgl9sxfdHb0UbFqieMUg hm9Kuim7gIyJ5vjMPTOSdqUGtexYJ3DfehM+MJPUE68bcq4U0nIFYzFP3gSKZrrmYLzd ymOm0+apP2yFSpZ4jxZmZ855+SR5m18F5EQBnHfAveQ07UUqT54HBipBr2416T/VMXDi QxwVJpuNN2WeSQnlJkTBO6SNGGyv1PM5P2wsnJh0pw1DgBrxYh5MH2JGrm09Bn/9JMvV rVb1qpxYqIZ1BYxuSoQeRFpAldItegLq6rQc39G9D7dexSUJfeAL44cgLVxKlPIm7jZz 7pwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532X6ZGumcbKnwqzLI3CfVRd/FXkbGiTSOIFyxCx8OvOkOtwUhXF rOxKVFVypkiUfubCYFkxp+656FRbcgqwasPwGyA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwjrCqH4ZwmGB8j3jY7Fam8ossMGAJJkUt9oaErGUMxKhSVwbSVbphnwMcsRoxO1z5sYJcL6Cb4vZe5239T4Ig= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2c0c:b0:5f0:793f:cb9e with SMTP id w12-20020a0566022c0c00b005f0793fcb9emr19417877iov.122.1653685688184; Fri, 27 May 2022 14:08:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Thomas Munro Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 09:07:31 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bump MIN_WINNT to 0x0600 (Vista) as minimal runtime in 16~ To: Michael Paquier Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jos=C3=A9_Santamar=C3=ADa_Flecha?= , Postgres hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:53 PM Michael Paquier wrote: > Windows 8 ends its support > in 2023, it seems, so that sounds short even for PG16. I guess you meant 8.1 here, and corresponding server release 2012 R2. These will come to the end of their "extended" support phase in 2023, before PG16 comes out. If I understand correctly (and I'm not a Windows user, I just googled this), they will start showing blue full-screen danger-Will-Robinson alerts about viruses and malware. Why would we have explicit support for that in a new release? Do we want people putting their users' data in such a system? Can you go to GDPR jail for that in Europe? (Joking, I think). We should go full Marie Kondo on EOL'd OSes that are not in our CI or build farm, IMHO.