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From: Florents Tselai <[email protected]>
To: Alexander Korotkov <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <[email protected]>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PATCH: jsonpath string methods: lower, upper, initcap, l/r/btrim, replace, split_part
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 21:29:50 +0200
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 1:55 PM Alexander Korotkov <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 12:04 AM Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Florents Tselai <[email protected]> writes:
> > > This patch is a follow-up and generalization to [0].
> > > It adds the following jsonpath methods:  lower, upper, initcap,
> l/r/btrim,
> > > replace, split_part.
> >
> > How are you going to deal with the fact that this makes jsonpath
> > operations not guaranteed immutable?  (See commit cb599b9dd
> > for some context.)  Those are all going to have behavior that's
> > dependent on the underlying locale.
> >
> > We have the kluge of having separate "_tz" functions to support
> > non-immutable datetime operations, but that way doesn't seem like
> > it's going to scale well to multiple sources of mutability.
>
> While inventing "_tz" functions I was thinking about jsonpath methods
> and operators defined in standard then.  Now I see huge interest on
> extending that.  I wonder if we can introduce a notion of flexible
> mutability?  Imagine that jsonb_path_query() function (and others) has
> another function which analyzes arguments and reports mutability.  If
> jsonpath argument is constant and all methods inside are safe then
> jsonb_path_query() is immutable otherwise it is stable.  I was
> thinking about that back working on jsonpath, but that time problem
> seemed too limited for this kind of solution.  Now, it's possibly time
> to shake off the dust from this idea.  What do you think?
>

I was thinking about taking another stab at this.
Would someone more versed in the inner workings of jsonpath like to weigh
in on the immutability wrt locale?

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