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Wed, 01 Jul 2026 23:48:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Amit Kapila Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 12:18:16 +0530 X-Gm-Features: AVVi8CdsB3ceNNmLkw0-AbAVA8vxm2Y4g30pXSSHCX2QXS7_GjBmA7D8dfU1wg8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DOCS - Clarify that REFRESH SEQUENCES might be using stale publication data To: Peter Smith Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000000f8dd806559b32df" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --0000000000000f8dd806559b32df Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 2, 2026 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Peter Smith = wrote: > > The docs do refer to "currently subscribed sequences" but do not > explicitly warn about this gotcha. > > PSA: a patch to add a clarifying sentence. > It does not add or remove sequences from the subscription to match the publication. + + If the publication's sequence membership has changed, + + ALTER SUBSCRIPTION ... REFRESH PUBLICATION + should be run before REFRESH SEQUENCES to ensure = the + subscription's known sequence list is current. + It is already mentioned that this command "does not add or remove sequences from the subscription to match the publication.". Adding more information, especially a separate para for the same, appears like bloating the text in docs. OTOH, I see your point of running REFRESH PUBLICATION before REFRESH SEQUENCES which I tried to cover in the existing paragraph. Apart from that, I have merged your doc-changes from another thread [1] which is on the same topic. Let's commit them together. 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