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From: Marcos Pegoraro <marcos@f10.com.br>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:09:30 -0300
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Subject: Re: Why mention to Oracle ?
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: "Jonah H. Harris" <jonah.harris@gmail.com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas@vondra.me>, 
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Em s=C3=A1b., 21 de set. de 2024 =C3=A0s 18:42, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjia=
n.us>
escreveu:

> I suggest you explain what changes would make the docs better (meaing
> more useful).
>

Well, I think I already did this in this discussion.
Tom said that some functions were copied from Oracle, so it is ok to
mention them. I don't think so.
Tomas said that we can mention other vendors, even if others don't do the
same for us. I don't think so again.
But David answered that would be cool if we create a separate
page/wiki/tool which compares, translates or anything like that to other
databases.
So, if we have a "Compatibility/Translation/Feature Comparison/ ... with
other Databases", it would be so cool.
But we don't have this kind of page, so why do we need to mention just one
of them ?
Searching on SGML there are 0 mentions to SQL Server and MySQL, but there
are almost 50 mentions to Oracle.
So this is my point, if you don't do the same for others, why do it for
Oracle ?

And again, I'm not saying that migrations from Oracle are not important,
I'm saying migrations from Oracle have the same importance than from MySQL,
SQL Server, Mongo, ...

regards
Marcos

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Em s=C3=A1b., 21 de set=
. de 2024 =C3=A0s 18:42, Bruce Momjian &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bruce@momjian.=
us">bruce@momjian.us</a>&gt; escreveu:</span><br></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I suggest yo=
u explain what changes would make the docs better (meaing<br>
more useful).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Well, I thin=
k I already did this in this discussion.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Tom said th=
at some functions were copied from Oracle, so it is ok to mention them. I d=
on&#39;t think so.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:v=
erdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Tomas said that we can mention ot=
her vendors, even if others don&#39;t do the same for us. I don&#39;t think=
=C2=A0so again.

</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(102,102,102)">But David answered that would be cool if we create =
a separate page/wiki/tool which compares, translates or anything like=C2=A0=
that to other databases.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">So, if we have a &quot;Comp=
atibility/Translation/Feature Comparison/ ... with other Databases&quot;, i=
t would be so cool.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">But we don&#39;t have this kind =
of page, so why do we need to mention just one of them ?=C2=A0</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102=
,102,102)">Searching on SGML there are 0 mentions to SQL Server and MySQL, =
but there are almost 50 mentions to Oracle.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">So=
 this is my point, if you don&#39;t do the same for others, why do it for O=
racle ?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">And again, I&#39=
;m not saying that migrations from Oracle are not important, I&#39;m saying=
 migrations from Oracle have the same importance than from MySQL, SQL Serve=
r, Mongo, ...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdan=
a,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">regards</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(102,102,102)">Marcos</div></div></div>

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