Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uplYs-00BfAW-Ti for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 10:33:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uplYr-00Ditp-U1 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 10:33:26 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uplYr-00Ditf-Io for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 10:33:26 +0000 Received: from mail-vk1-xa32.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::a32]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uplYp-001Ksr-2N for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 10:33:25 +0000 Received: by mail-vk1-xa32.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-53b174c9c79so1161956e0c.2 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 03:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1755945203; x=1756550003; darn=postgresql.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4Py7V2EP8YgYuAorx0dIgLKXggHopsDNHZ8v1BMogNQ=; b=N1L4IFE0j2f8y9xOY5fcGvkstaaN7vg8wYxP2M3tgZg+WzwfdGhJuuY7xaESt8aIS4 fAnGj8wM2jFZUwLC4LOQ1YTibm/XFKDow8bC7p7Z6PviIaJvZE35lXKlB4XlrOXhufx4 z+DFubQnQJWty4ULD60IHGfNtVOlpNM52DzyvZGalY0MgmHqTcs1QNPsM8SMbYoZjG+9 zkv/rGJOr2akWknLizkI71Si0B/+M5bbLiie3BTUmppCCKnHLBFX58JWhFkBFXA1fUtu Yg4Ew8nrCP9wyRW0NuuBv9E16lPaC+QKaA8taj/Ecj7T+FV7GXeYB856ygx93jJlL1H2 SBug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1755945203; x=1756550003; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=4Py7V2EP8YgYuAorx0dIgLKXggHopsDNHZ8v1BMogNQ=; b=AkJHfbMN0h4sm/db+4QI2n0mcfy/urawPrS0Tf5oKCmUugAPQjttw3vPfo3Lz1tqej T8hn/iZrwTr270sS3OG5T2n7IYPneqKaiv1n49XtEz7q7l9GD2Og1acbwUqF4hM8uki7 1NVyDXEkIyCz34LN18g85OFP0zjyX19tplDFPeZIRtULVyfRDVYmYRK8YiQhxQEQs7bm J8QMtLc7/BNIn4kYiDN6PG9JxGCbbMPbzCFMq334niPO0hUvzpJzLZSaSDJ+pfqkAF8i khgh635qs8lhAAOHUQAZVYbXOjfSV3wxzVruwvauL66AwmQ900Rwlp7dPnbVUb56ByTq niXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzWNyxC0WNYqvWGUk/hoFjUSnacuLRZM+NxxJUTW3qC2cyV9eq/ jr38Y7dmIsBuWxM+etINWW3qIHhyCYPYqqLfuQuENM6J57Bb1mXULCU0tEseaYse1GE13VNe8YD kPmLjNrFtKAOs1uYc0U7Mi4PrjHVotd8= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctGKBvMR4JqEKakVTW+rQJ1xAw52KZOZmPeI2bq830r4TLCjKopnITy7owQhHm C+voNV1lSYiTopW/rP346aXK88+0bwZr24ZcY1F8BO9ypy2JUTvY7ICM+qEUl5mdlvXL26V4Nmk yPwYkkgRnLHcLhW+tnAKQgLaCn4BWpW38rfLaoA5ihyHxH6DlUlt6C7Sz0Yf+XyKXjYOQYQBn4j LS5kLzBjlQPkiMGWQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHvitAFOldOG+ghX3C9zcFhCqOBBmoMx0K5K5U1/1iz1GpF9fiZyXNX+au4LWKUPCBhSf7tWFQZS8E5BGiLT1E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:1d48:b0:53c:6d68:1cdb with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-53c8a44e834mr1704881e0c.13.1755945203531; Sat, 23 Aug 2025 03:33:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mihail Nikalayeu Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 12:31:53 +0200 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXxXboSnx1769UM2sDH8Sw_sZItmTg2cTUexAQ_178SwICpRLVFVR1_14jY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buffer locking is special (hints, checksums, AIO writes) To: Andres Freund Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Melanie Plageman , Thomas Munro , Heikki Linnakangas , Noah Misch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hello, Andres! Andres Freund : > > As part of that introduce a new lock level in-between share and exclusive > locks (provisionally called share-exclusive, but I hate it). The new lock > level allows other share lockers, but can only be held by one backend. > > This allows to change the rules so that: > > 1) Share lockers are not allowed to modify buffers anymore > 2) Hint bits need the new lock mode (conditionally upgrading the lock in SetHintBits()) > 3) Write IO needs to the new lock level IIUC, it may be mapped to existing locking system: BUFFER_LOCK_SHARE ----> AccessShareLock new lock mode ----> ExclusiveLock BUFFER_LOCK_EXCLUSIVE ----> AccessExclusiveLock So, it all may be named: BUFFER_LOCK_ACCESS_SHARE BUFFER_LOCK_EXCLUSIVE BUFFER_LOCK_ACCESS_EXCLUSIVE being more consistent with table-level locking system. Greetings, Mikhail.