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Subject: Re: Potential ABI breakage in upcoming minor releases
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:18:06 +0100
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 at 02:57, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [ getting back to the document-ABI-breakage-rules-better topic ... ]
>
> I wrote:
> > That text says exactly nothing about what specific code changes to
> > make or not make. I'm not sure offhand where (or if) we have this
> > documented, but there's an idea that adding fields at the end of
> > a struct is safer ABI-wise than putting them in the middle. Which
> > is true if you can't squeeze them into padding space. Here, that
> > could have been done and probably should have.
>
> I remembered where that's documented:
>
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Committing_checklist#Maintaining_ABI_compatibility_while_backpatchi...
>
> The current text there is:
>
>
> * You can only really change the signature of a function with local
> linkage, perhaps with a few rare exceptions.
>
> * You cannot modify any struct definition in src/include/*. If any new
> members must be added to a struct, put them at the end in
> backbranches. It's okay to have a different struct layout in
> master. Even then, extensions that allocate the struct can break via
> a dependency on its size.
>
> * Move new enum values to the end.
>
>
> I propose rewriting and expanding that:
>
>
> * Don't change the signature of non-static functions. One common
> workaround is to change the existing function into a wrapper that
> calls a new function with more/different arguments.
>
> * Don't change the contents of globally-visible structs, specifically
> not the offsets of existing fields. If you must add a new field,
> the very best way is to put it into existing alignment padding
> between fields. (But consider both 32-bit and 64-bit cases when
> deciding what is "padding".) If that's not possible, it may be okay
> to add the field at the end of the struct; but you have to worry
> about whether any extensions depend on the size of the struct.
> This will not work well if extensions allocate new instances of the
> struct. One particular gotcha is that it's not okay to change
> sizeof(ResultRelInfo), as there are executor APIs that require
> extensions to index into arrays of ResultRelInfos.
I would also add something like the following, to protect against
corruption and deserialization errors of the catalog pg_node_tree
fields, because right now the generated readfuncs.c code ignores field
names, assumes ABI field order, and is generally quite sensitive to
binary changes, which can cause corruption and/or errors during
readback of those nodes:
* If you update the contents of Nodes which are stored on disk as
pg_node_tree, you also have to make sure that the read function for
that node type is able to read both the old and the new serialized
format.
A reference to readfuncs.c/readfuncs.c, and/or the usage of
pg_node_tree for (among others) views, index/default expressions,
constraints, and partition bounds would maybe be useful as well.
> None of this is a substitute for installing some kind of ABI-checking
> infrastructure;
Agreed.
Kind regards,
Matthias van de Meent
Neon (https://neon.tech)
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