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From: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 11:42:54 +0530
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Subject: Re: Proposal: Conflict log history table for Logical Replication
To: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>, shveta malik <shveta.malik@gmail.com>,
	Nisha Moond <nisha.moond412@gmail.com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>,
	Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>,
	Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>,
	PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>,
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On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 2:57=E2=80=AFAM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 1:34=E2=80=AFAM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> >
> > On Tue, 26 May 2026 at 15:08, shveta malik <shveta.malik@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 10:13=E2=80=AFAM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the comments, the attached v39 version patch has the
> > > > changes for the same.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have not yet looked at v40, but please find a few ocmments on
> > > v39-0001 and 0002 merged together.
> > > 4)
> > > Do we need to have CommandCounterIncrement() after
> > > heap_create_with_catalog() in create_conflict_log_table()? I think
> > > even if we are not doing any table_open etc for CLT in same
> > > transaction, we should call CommandCounterIncrement() (to be
> > > consistent with other such calls of heap_create_with_catalog and to
> > > make it future proof). Thoughts?
> >
> > I felt this is not required as we are not doing a table open on the
> > newly created table.
> >
>
> Okay, command counter increment would be required here if we further
> access that relation in the same command.  I think I am facing a
> related problem w.r.t newly created subscription. After applying first
> six patches, the create subscription fails as follows:
> postgres=3D# create subscription sub1 connection 'dbname=3Dpostgres'
> publication pub1 with (conflict_log_destination=3D'all');
> ERROR:  dependent subscription was concurrently dropped
>
> I debugged and found that we get the above ERROR when we are trying to
> find the subscription which is not yet created. In this case, it seems
> to be happening because we are using a subscription that is yet not
> created for dependency recording. This raises a question as to why are
> we creating the conflict_log_table before subscription, at least this
> needs some comments.
>
> *
> + if (mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_U=
SAGE))
> + {
> + if (IsConflictLogTableClass(classForm))
> + {
> + /*
> + * For conflict log tables, allow non-superusers to perform
> + * DELETE and TRUNCATE for cleanup and maintenance. Also allow
> + * INSERT and UPDATE to pass ACL checks so that later checks
> + * can raise the dedicated "cannot modify or insert data into
> + * conflict log table" error instead of a generic permission
> + * denied error. Still restrict USAGE for non-superusers.
> + */
> + mask &=3D ~(ACL_USAGE);
>
> I see the point of giving a specific error instead of a generic error
> but this functionality is used by pg_class_aclmask() which is an
> exposed function. If we go with your proposed change, isn't there a
> risk that some extension or outside core-code using pg_class_aclmask()
> won't invoke that later functionality (CheckValidResultRel())? If we
> decide to go this way then we can change this comment as proposed in
> the attached?

I do not understand this change; my original patch 0001 has like this,
that mean we are only allowing ACL_TRUNCATE and ACL_DELETE for
conflict log table, whats the reason for changing the same in 0002?

  if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE |
ACL_USAGE)) &&
- IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
- classForm->relkind !=3D RELKIND_VIEW &&
+ IsConflictClass(classForm) &&
  !superuser_arg(roleid))
- mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USA=
GE);
+ mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_USAGE);
+ else if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE |
ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE)) &&
+ IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
+ classForm->relkind !=3D RELKIND_VIEW &&
+ !superuser_arg(roleid))
+ mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USA=
GE);


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Regards,
Dilip Kumar
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