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To: vignesh C <[email protected]>
Cc: Amit Kapila <[email protected]>
Cc: shveta malik <[email protected]>
Cc: Nisha Moond <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Smith <[email protected]>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <[email protected]>
Cc: Bharath Rupireddy <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <[email protected]>
Cc: shveta malik <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Conflict log history table for Logical Replication
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 04:36:36 +0530
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On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 5:38 PM vignesh C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 May 2026 at 11:43, Dilip Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 2:57 AM Amit Kapila <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 1:34 AM vignesh C <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 26 May 2026 at 15:08, shveta malik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 10:13 AM vignesh C <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the comments, the attached v39 version patch has the
> > > > > > changes for the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not yet looked at v40, but please find a few ocmments on
> > > > > v39-0001 and 0002 merged together.
> > > > > 4)
> > > > > Do we need to have CommandCounterIncrement() after
> > > > > heap_create_with_catalog() in create_conflict_log_table()? I think
> > > > > even if we are not doing any table_open etc for CLT in same
> > > > > transaction, we should call CommandCounterIncrement() (to be
> > > > > consistent with other such calls of heap_create_with_catalog and to
> > > > > make it future proof). Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > I felt this is not required as we are not doing a table open on the
> > > > newly created table.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Okay, command counter increment would be required here if we further
> > > access that relation in the same command. I think I am facing a
> > > related problem w.r.t newly created subscription. After applying first
> > > six patches, the create subscription fails as follows:
> > > postgres=# create subscription sub1 connection 'dbname=postgres'
> > > publication pub1 with (conflict_log_destination='all');
> > > ERROR: dependent subscription was concurrently dropped
> > >
> > > I debugged and found that we get the above ERROR when we are trying to
> > > find the subscription which is not yet created. In this case, it seems
> > > to be happening because we are using a subscription that is yet not
> > > created for dependency recording. This raises a question as to why are
> > > we creating the conflict_log_table before subscription, at least this
> > > needs some comments.
> > >
> > > *
> > > + if (mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE))
> > > + {
> > > + if (IsConflictLogTableClass(classForm))
> > > + {
> > > + /*
> > > + * For conflict log tables, allow non-superusers to perform
> > > + * DELETE and TRUNCATE for cleanup and maintenance. Also allow
> > > + * INSERT and UPDATE to pass ACL checks so that later checks
> > > + * can raise the dedicated "cannot modify or insert data into
> > > + * conflict log table" error instead of a generic permission
> > > + * denied error. Still restrict USAGE for non-superusers.
> > > + */
> > > + mask &= ~(ACL_USAGE);
> > >
> > > I see the point of giving a specific error instead of a generic error
> > > but this functionality is used by pg_class_aclmask() which is an
> > > exposed function. If we go with your proposed change, isn't there a
> > > risk that some extension or outside core-code using pg_class_aclmask()
> > > won't invoke that later functionality (CheckValidResultRel())? If we
> > > decide to go this way then we can change this comment as proposed in
> > > the attached?
> >
> > I do not understand this change; my original patch 0001 has like this,
> > that mean we are only allowing ACL_TRUNCATE and ACL_DELETE for
> > conflict log table, whats the reason for changing the same in 0002?
> >
> > if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE |
> > ACL_USAGE)) &&
> > - IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
> > - classForm->relkind != RELKIND_VIEW &&
> > + IsConflictClass(classForm) &&
> > !superuser_arg(roleid))
> > - mask &= ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE);
> > + mask &= ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_USAGE);
> > + else if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE |
> > ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE)) &&
> > + IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
> > + classForm->relkind != RELKIND_VIEW &&
> > + !superuser_arg(roleid))
> > + mask &= ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE);
>
> This was done to fix Shveta's comments from [1] to throw "cannot
> modify or insert data into conflict log table" instead of a generic
> permission denied error for the owner of the conflict log table.
> [1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/[email protected]...
Thanks for pointing it, I will analyze this behavior and give my opinion.
--
Regards,
Dilip Kumar
Google
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