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From: Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 10:03:55 +0200
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Subject: Re: PSA: Planning to grease protocol connections during 19beta
To: Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 20:58 Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
wrote:

> Something I'm struggling with is whether (and how) to have people let
> us know when they've hit this, so that we know that the campaign is
> working. I have some language to that effect in the "What do I need to
> do?" section, but I don't really know what list I should point to, if
> any, nor what they should say so that they don't confuse the list
> regulars. I'm considering removing that part of the call to action.
>

I think it'd be good if they notify us too. So we can get a sense of
whether it's "safe enough" to bump the protocol version at some point
and/or we can bug important offenders that we have some sway over. How
about adding something like this to the wiki page:

Please also report the issue to the pgsql-hackers mailinglist using the
[grease] tag at the start of the subject and include a link to the upstream
issue (if it's on a public issue tracker). As an example:

To: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: [grease] ExampleProxy fails grease check
Body:
I'm using ExampleProxy and it's failing the grease check. I've reported the
issue upstream at https://example.com/issues/1234

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 20:58 Jacob Champion &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Something I&#39;m struggling with is whether (and how) to have people let<b=
r>
us know when they&#39;ve hit this, so that we know that the campaign is<br>
working. I have some language to that effect in the &quot;What do I need to=
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do?&quot; section, but I don&#39;t really know what list I should point to,=
 if<br>
any, nor what they should say so that they don&#39;t confuse the list<br>
regulars. I&#39;m considering removing that part of the call to action.<br>=
</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I th=
ink it&#39;d be good if they notify us too. So we can get a sense of whethe=
r it&#39;s &quot;safe enough&quot; to bump the protocol version at some poi=
nt and/or we can bug important offenders that we have some sway over. How a=
bout adding something like this to the wiki page:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Please also report the issue to the pgsql-hackers=
 mailinglist using the [grease] tag at the start of the subject and include=
 a link to the upstream issue (if it&#39;s on a public issue tracker). As a=
n example:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">To: <a href=
=3D"mailto:pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org</a></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Subject: [grease] ExampleProxy fails grease check</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Body:</div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m using ExampleProxy and it&#39;s f=
ailing the grease check. I&#39;ve reported the issue upstream at <a href=3D=
"https://example.com/issues/1234" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://example.com/issues/1234</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">
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