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From: Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:38:23 +0900
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Subject: Re: [doc] pg_ctl: fix wrong description for -l
To: Xiaopeng Wang <wxp_728@163.com>
Cc: "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>,
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2026 at 11:28=E2=80=AFAM Xiaopeng Wang <wxp_728@163.com> wr=
ote:
>
> =E5=9C=A8 2026/4/13 13:20, Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu) =E5=86=99=E9=81=93:
> > Dear Andres, Fujii-san,
> >
> > Thanks for reviewing. Updated accordingly.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Hayato Kuroda
> > FUJITSU LIMITED
> >
> +1 to fix the doc.
>
> I just feel the new sentence could be further polished a little bit, like=
:
>
> If the file does not exist, it is created. By default, the log file is no=
t accessible to other users, though members of the same group may be able t=
o read it depending on the data directory permissions.

"other users" and "members of the same group" sound a bit ambiguous to me.
Would it be clearer to refer explicitly to the cluster owner? For example:

----------------------
Append the server log output to "filename".  If the file does not
exist, it is created.  By default, only the cluster owner can access
the log file.  If group access is enabled in the cluster, users in the
same group as the cluster owner can also read it.
----------------------

Regards,

--=20
Fujii Masao