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That's reducing their > > choice, and then blaming them for their choice. > > Can we reach a decision here and move forward? > > AFAIK the issue has been settled, or at the least we've agreed to move on. Robert Treat https://xzilla.net --000000000000c3756906312e5eb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 1:32=E2=80=AFAM J= eff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>= ; wrote:
On Sat, 2025-03-08 at 14:09 -0500, Corey Huinker wrote:
> >
> > except it is perfectly clear that you *asked for* data and
> > statistics, so you get what you asked for. however the user
> > conjures=C2=A0in their=C2=A0heads what they are looking for, the = logic is
> > simple, you get what you asked for.=C2=A0
> >
>
>
> They *asked for* that because they didn't have the mechanism to sa= y
> "hold the mayo" or "everything except pickles". Th= at's reducing their
> choice, and then blaming them for their choice.

Can we reach a decision here and move forward?

AFAIK the issue has been settled, or at the least we've agr= eed to move on.


Robert Treat
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