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From: Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 15:16:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: RFC: adding pytest as a supported test framework
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>, 
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 9:38=E2=80=AFAM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>=
 wrote:

> I agree with you, but I'm skeptical that solving it will be as easy as
> switching to Python. For whatever reason, it seems like every piece of
> infrastructure that the PostgreSQL community has suffers from severe
> neglect. Literally everything I know of either has one or maybe two
> very senior hackers maintaining it, or no maintainer at all.

...

> All of this stuff is critical project infrastructure and yet it feels lik=
e
> nobody wants to work on
> it.


I feel at least some of this is a visibility / marketing problem. I've not
seen any dire requests for help come across on the lists, nor things on the
various todos/road maps/ blog posts people make from time to time. If I
had, I would have jumped in. And for the record, I'm very proficient with
Perl.

Cheers,
Greg

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 9:38=E2=80=AFAM R=
obert Haas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertmhaas@gmail.com">robertmhaas@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I agree with you, but I&#39;m skeptical that s=
olving it will be as easy as<br>
switching to Python. For whatever reason, it seems like every piece of<br>
infrastructure that the PostgreSQL community has suffers from severe<br>
neglect. Literally everything I know of either has one or maybe two<br>
very senior hackers maintaining it, or no maintainer at all.</blockquote><d=
iv>...</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">All of this s=
tuff is critical project infrastructure and yet it feels like nobody wants =
to work on<br>
it.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I feel at least some of this is a visib=
ility / marketing problem. I&#39;ve not seen any dire requests for help com=
e across on the lists, nor things on the various todos/road maps/ blog post=
s people make from time to time. If I had, I would have jumped in. And for =
the record, I&#39;m very proficient with Perl.</div><div><br></div><div>Che=
ers,</div><div>Greg</div><div>=C2=A0<br></div></div></div>

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