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From: Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 16:33:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: RFC: adding pytest as a supported test framework
To: Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 1:08=E2=80=AFPM Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.=
nl>
wrote:

> But Perl is at the next level of unmaintained infrastructure. It is
> actually clear how you can contribute to it, but still no new
> community members actually want to contribute to it. Also, it's not
> only unmaintained by us but it's also pretty much unmaintained by the
> upstream community.


I am not happy with the state of Perl, as it has made some MAJOR missteps
along the way, particularly in the last 5 years. But can we dispel this
strawman? There is a difference between "unpopular" and "unmaintained". The
latest version of Perl was released May 20, 2024. The latest release of
Test::More was April 25, 2024. Both are heavily used. Just not as heavily
as they used to be. :)

Cheers,
Greg

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 1:08=E2=80=AFPM J=
elte Fennema-Nio &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:postgres@jeltef.nl">postgres@jeltef.=
nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But Perl is at the next level of unmaintained =
infrastructure. It is<br>
actually clear how you can contribute to it, but still no new<br>
community members actually want to contribute to it. Also, it&#39;s not<br>
only unmaintained by us but it&#39;s also pretty much unmaintained by the<b=
r>
upstream community.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am not happy with the=
 state of Perl, as it has made some MAJOR missteps along the way, particula=
rly in the last 5 years. But can we dispel this strawman? There is a differ=
ence between &quot;unpopular&quot; and &quot;unmaintained&quot;. The latest=
 version of Perl was released May 20, 2024. The latest release of Test::Mor=
e was April 25, 2024. Both are heavily used. Just not as heavily as they us=
ed to be. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Greg</div><div><br>=
</div></div></div>

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