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From: vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 17:38:05 +0530
Message-ID: 
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Subject: Re: Proposal: Conflict log history table for Logical Replication
To: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>,
 shveta malik <shveta.malik@gmail.com>,
	Nisha Moond <nisha.moond412@gmail.com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>,
	Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>,
	Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>,
	PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>,
 shveta malik <shvetamalik@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 31 May 2026 at 11:43, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 2:57=E2=80=AFAM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.=
com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 1:34=E2=80=AFAM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail.com>=
 wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 26 May 2026 at 15:08, shveta malik <shveta.malik@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 10:13=E2=80=AFAM vignesh C <vignesh21@gmail=
.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the comments, the attached v39 version patch has the
> > > > > changes for the same.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have not yet looked at v40, but please find a few ocmments on
> > > > v39-0001 and 0002 merged together.
> > > > 4)
> > > > Do we need to have CommandCounterIncrement() after
> > > > heap_create_with_catalog() in create_conflict_log_table()? I think
> > > > even if we are not doing any table_open etc for CLT in same
> > > > transaction, we should call CommandCounterIncrement() (to be
> > > > consistent with other such calls of heap_create_with_catalog and to
> > > > make it future proof). Thoughts?
> > >
> > > I felt this is not required as we are not doing a table open on the
> > > newly created table.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, command counter increment would be required here if we further
> > access that relation in the same command.  I think I am facing a
> > related problem w.r.t newly created subscription. After applying first
> > six patches, the create subscription fails as follows:
> > postgres=3D# create subscription sub1 connection 'dbname=3Dpostgres'
> > publication pub1 with (conflict_log_destination=3D'all');
> > ERROR:  dependent subscription was concurrently dropped
> >
> > I debugged and found that we get the above ERROR when we are trying to
> > find the subscription which is not yet created. In this case, it seems
> > to be happening because we are using a subscription that is yet not
> > created for dependency recording. This raises a question as to why are
> > we creating the conflict_log_table before subscription, at least this
> > needs some comments.
> >
> > *
> > + if (mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL=
_USAGE))
> > + {
> > + if (IsConflictLogTableClass(classForm))
> > + {
> > + /*
> > + * For conflict log tables, allow non-superusers to perform
> > + * DELETE and TRUNCATE for cleanup and maintenance. Also allow
> > + * INSERT and UPDATE to pass ACL checks so that later checks
> > + * can raise the dedicated "cannot modify or insert data into
> > + * conflict log table" error instead of a generic permission
> > + * denied error. Still restrict USAGE for non-superusers.
> > + */
> > + mask &=3D ~(ACL_USAGE);
> >
> > I see the point of giving a specific error instead of a generic error
> > but this functionality is used by pg_class_aclmask() which is an
> > exposed function. If we go with your proposed change, isn't there a
> > risk that some extension or outside core-code using pg_class_aclmask()
> > won't invoke that later functionality (CheckValidResultRel())? If we
> > decide to go this way then we can change this comment as proposed in
> > the attached?
>
> I do not understand this change; my original patch 0001 has like this,
> that mean we are only allowing ACL_TRUNCATE and ACL_DELETE for
> conflict log table, whats the reason for changing the same in 0002?
>
>   if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE |
> ACL_USAGE)) &&
> - IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
> - classForm->relkind !=3D RELKIND_VIEW &&
> + IsConflictClass(classForm) &&
>   !superuser_arg(roleid))
> - mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_U=
SAGE);
> + mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_USAGE);
> + else if ((mask & (ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE |
> ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_USAGE)) &&
> + IsSystemClass(table_oid, classForm) &&
> + classForm->relkind !=3D RELKIND_VIEW &&
> + !superuser_arg(roleid))
> + mask &=3D ~(ACL_INSERT | ACL_UPDATE | ACL_DELETE | ACL_TRUNCATE | ACL_U=
SAGE);

This was done to fix Shveta's comments from [1] to throw "cannot
modify or insert data into conflict log table" instead of a generic
permission denied error for the owner of the conflict log table.
[1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAJpy0uANkzTyUjO2W0=3DRtaJCGg=
=3DVYcwLGGCpqax=3DzKJgNbB0Hw@mail.gmail.com

Regards,
Vignesh