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From: Bharath Rupireddy <[email protected]>
To: Amit Kapila <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Smith <[email protected]>
Cc: Ajin Cherian <[email protected]>
Cc: Bertrand Drouvot <[email protected]>
Cc: shveta malik <[email protected]>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <[email protected]>
Cc: Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Introduce XID age and inactive timeout based replication slot invalidation
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 22:40:52 +0530
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Hi,

Thanks for looking into this.

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 4:54 PM Amit Kapila <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why raise the ERROR just for timeout invalidation here and why not if
> the slot is invalidated for other reasons? This raises the question of
> what happens before this patch if the invalid slot is used from places
> where we call ReplicationSlotAcquire(). I did a brief code analysis
> and found that for StartLogicalReplication(), even if the error won't
> occur in ReplicationSlotAcquire(), it would have been caught in
> CreateDecodingContext(). I think that is where we should also add this
> new error. Similarly, pg_logical_slot_get_changes_guts() and other
> logical replication functions should be calling
> CreateDecodingContext() which can raise the new ERROR. I am not sure
> about how the invalid slots are handled during physical replication,
> please check the behavior of that before this patch.

When physical slots are invalidated due to wal_removed reason, the failure
happens at a much later point for the streaming standbys while reading the
requested WAL files like the following:

2024-09-16 16:29:52.416 UTC [876059] FATAL:  could not receive data from
WAL stream: ERROR:  requested WAL segment 000000010000000000000005 has
already been removed
2024-09-16 16:29:52.416 UTC [872418] LOG:  waiting for WAL to become
available at 0/5002000

At this point, despite the slot being invalidated, its wal_status can still
come back to 'unreserved' even from 'lost', and the standby can catch up if
removed WAL files are copied either by manually or by a tool/script to the
primary's pg_wal directory. IOW, the physical slots invalidated due to
wal_removed are *somehow* recoverable unlike the logical slots.

IIUC, the invalidation of a slot implies that it is not guaranteed to hold
any resources like WAL and XMINs. Does it also imply that the slot must be
unusable?

-- 
Bharath Rupireddy
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com


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