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From: Nazir Bilal Yavuz <[email protected]>
To: Jelte Fennema-Nio <[email protected]>
Cc: Andres Freund <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Heads Up: cirrus-ci is shutting down June 1st
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:51:24 +0300
Message-ID: <CAN55FZ355yjig5RWOPzTj3-_c4iqdmAzjKLk6J_NuCnKjuG0GQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Hi,

On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 at 14:31, Jelte Fennema-Nio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 at 22:55, Andres Freund <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'd be interested in feedback about how high folks value different aspects:
>
> My thoughts below.

I agree with all of Jelte's points except:

> > 4) CI tests as many operating systems as possible
>
> I think we at minimum need linux+macos+windows. Windows is by far the
> system that fails most often for me. BSDs would be good, but they
> often tend to be fine if osx and linux work. Personally for me I think
> on Cirrus The BSDs didn't meet the useful signal to flakiness noise
> ratio (i.e. they tended to mostly break randomly for me).

I think BSDs are quite capable of catching issues that others can't
catch. That has at least been my experience with OpenBSD.

However, I agree that OpenBSD and NetBSD tasks are flaky; I think that
is mostly because we generate these VM images from scratch (i.e. other
operating systems' VM images were already available on GCP). I don't
think FreeBSD is flaky.


-- 
Regards,
Nazir Bilal Yavuz
Microsoft





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