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From: Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 12:34:18 -0700
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Subject: Re: Direct SSL connection with ALPN and HBA rules
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Cc: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, 
	Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 12:32=E2=80=AFPM Jacob Champion
<jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki=
.fi> wrote:
> > On 29/04/2024 21:43, Jacob Champion wrote:
> > > But if you're in that situation, what does the use of directonly give
> > > you over `sslnegotiation=3Ddirect`? You already know that servers
> > > support direct, so there's no additional performance penalty from the
> > > less strict mode.
> >
> > Well, by that argument we don't need requiredirect/directonly at all.
> > This goes back to whether it's a security feature or a performance feat=
ure.
>
> That's what I've been trying to argue, yeah. If it's not a security
> feature... why's it there?

Er, I should clarify this. I _want_ requiredirect. I just want it to
be a security feature.

--Jacob