Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nbTex-0004bH-QK for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nbTew-0007wQ-Ma for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:50:46 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nbTew-0007wH-2g for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:50:46 +0000 Received: from mail-pj1-x1036.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1036]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nbTet-0007jt-Jt for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:50:45 +0000 Received: by mail-pj1-x1036.google.com with SMTP id h23-20020a17090a051700b001c9c1dd3acbso496181pjh.3 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 13:50:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=enterprisedb.com; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=QDilqipnzOl246NlogPd1XCTZX1Pfo3Eh+ImiiQKYPc=; b=Xw3fS/gxV8ZdSl/ESxh4OR54wNBufrELxdqT6EqQV31IEd+3hFsrPJfN+zEyqNjDC8 qZ21Rhf1y8GWOvjo9LfTvhzZhfHV9plJB+Z8R+LS+0YXVNfbaoW6nn2GP09Tpxiwo85E wS7BYi1ZwrNUunRzzmKx35yPbrmeP7DUG0c+TdYx48hO91MC7qLGRxxeVwBKK6HMxA4Z 8jyfgi3b+Hymr1BPT0qQE8bGTYDHaoq+hfIp1+oNwpco93fsJuomXIyAbH06POR9TT9z EDr/VsRuJrwDQWW9v1eTCMKGTsp+LWbtKVGUbGwY7fhn0wzS92WGZXpGe7H9/nsKmAKe eUMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=QDilqipnzOl246NlogPd1XCTZX1Pfo3Eh+ImiiQKYPc=; b=Z2bYm4lT4RaNapQqofgjy1R84fXM3JGxgDoIW6G/C/khsoVfgbffLmFLEoiLHLMIZd jo9S9+TrntY31q478+TY0YtN9144zHpls7dB3cmGbahoQUiepcbsNvmIah8fNobWUxvs Xm5gOrQEihtg2XTGFbGllA2C36O8B75QMEzmUGYLD+AJy5BKgpL9Asfo/466pcUz6FWp r26j7v8EROVi3yaaw7J9HLFBmZihBcyAw9CN5vfsY/QXPYUl/a/YYfJsY79ZGYSfViuI 9ZzXwTMlQzPwroXiYVYQJLPhnRohWJUGuquO0RAm4zDr5RZSTe+F7p76q0J+rhR+Socg KiGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530x8Jj2qRhV8ksOFBbzenNMqkeGIKB0kjvXHdWHbPaBV8dbtZan 7byc7RelIWNkz+H2Y4dKVpRkWEFHkg+5m2gRnzDUlmviLbQWl9gOzDUIyKm6WigUD5dYKrsd704 9OldV0vhVOzkZd+CUhvtZwyMVu2hk7gftDZfNpRkAixcWcsjRP0PQHlJk2AdCJUQ/AVwv17qxCk wFlB+uX0IKSxPNsPTm7O6/hrYo7r7iGU0MQHab X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz2ANFi2teoAfniAam/pSN5Eq3RQSSZAcETBceaGWWUvPNTxuc5KUQhIYe4hu31UQJG/nhZ1A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:560a:b0:1bc:72e7:3c13 with SMTP id r10-20020a17090a560a00b001bc72e73c13mr117100pjf.246.1649105442414; Mon, 04 Apr 2022 13:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop280-ma-us.hitronhub.home (24-113-193-150.wavecable.com. [24.113.193.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g5-20020a056a0023c500b004fae15ab86dsm12749182pfc.52.2022.04.04.13.50.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Apr 2022 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Subject: Re: New Object Access Type hooks From: Mark Dilger In-Reply-To: <2163177.1649105224@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:50:40 -0700 Cc: Thomas Munro , PostgreSQL-development , Joshua Brindle , Robert Haas , Andrew Dunstan , Jeff Davis , Joe Conway Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <47F87A0E-C0E5-43A6-89F6-D403F2B45175@enterprisedb.com> <17BD82D7-49AC-40C9-8204-E7ADD30321A0@enterprisedb.com> <1918971.1649091790@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1922986.1649094077@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1923706.1649094673@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1925660.1649095626@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2BD8BDA8-A963-4D64-8B69-8F7EDF9AEA2D@enterprisedb.com> <1974785.1649098875@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1975199.1649099110@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2163177.1649105224@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) X-CLOUD-SEC-AV-Info: enterprisedb,google_mail,monitor X-CLOUD-SEC-AV-Sent: true X-Gm-Spam: 0 X-Gm-Phishy: 0 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On Apr 4, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >=20 > Yeah, it's plausible to get a failure on either the write or read side > depending on timing. >=20 > Perhaps libpq should be trying harder to make those cases look alike, = but > this test is about server behavior not libpq behavior, so I'm inclined > to just make it lax. +1. I've gotten this test failure only a few times in perhaps the last six = months, so if we narrow the opportunity for test failure without closing = it entirely, we're just making the test failures that much harder to = diagnose. =E2=80=94 Mark Dilger EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company