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Contrary to DROP > DATABASE, where we require the drop to be done by the owner of the > database (or a superuser), CREATE DATABASE has less requirements: it > is fine for a role to create a database if they have the CREATEDB > rights. If we allow bgworkers to be cancelled when the database they > are connected to is used as a source, that may be disruptive, so we > had better document precisely the behavior of the flag and what users > should expect from it when set. Actually, if the database is not marked as the template one, the user must = be owner of the source or superuser. Not sure there is a real case that templa= te database has dedicated workers, but anyway I do agree to note down this beh= avior. It is surprising that creating other databases lead the process termination= s. Best regards, Hayato Kuroda FUJITSU LIMITED