Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5532E00D1 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:48:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from developer.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68421-02-2 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:47:49 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from westnet.com (westnet.com [216.187.52.2]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288452E00CF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:47:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from westnet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m52GlhtA002944; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gsmith@localhost) by westnet.com (8.14.0/8.13.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m52GlhO0002940; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:47:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: westnet.com: gsmith owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:47:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Smith X-X-Sender: gsmith@westnet.com To: "Jignesh K. Shah" cc: Josh Berkus , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Overhauling GUCS In-Reply-To: <484418D9.5040608@sun.com> Message-ID: References: <48409D1E.3070208@agliodbs.com> <1212219274.4120.191.camel@ebony.site> <484418D9.5040608@sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200806/66 X-Sequence-Number: 119179 On Mon, 2 Jun 2008, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > Most people I have seen will increase one or few but not all parameters > related to memory which can result in loss of performance and > productivity in figuring out. If it becomes easier to build a simple tool available to help people tune their configurations, that should help here without having to do anything more complicated than that. > What happened to AvailRAM setting and base all memory gucs on that. Like some of the other GUC simplification ideas that show up sometimes (unifying all I/O and limiting background processes based on that total is another), this is hard to do internally. Josh's proposal has a fair amount of work involved, but the code itself doesn't need to be clever or too intrusive. Unifying all the memory settings would require being both clever and intrusive, and I doubt you'll find anybody who could pull it off who isn't already overtasked with more important improvements for the 8.4 timeframe. -- * Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD