Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqUEm-0000Qt-8D for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:57:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqUEk-0007IN-Mb for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:57:30 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqUEi-0007IE-Vo for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:57:30 +0000 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqUEe-0002Z0-6f for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:57:28 +0000 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2E85C00C2; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 00:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Nov 2021 00:57:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paquier.xyz; h= date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm3; bh=RJlGvOCE0SbsKGS8Y8e5Ss3mfOV GHG4i6hZcZ/1U62A=; b=UJh4Vs7sWJtYWlw/GVAE3+SBmfNkHDv4pW94WIL4wKw 3P7kQmMLycPo+Ns5avkJNW0EVyLJPiZMn4Jscv4JFdOy8Xhi8LQVXfn4Bx3df+os tDcEsebT7uvLTZOhIBkNOtvC0fQ6/Mtrz7K69LkzHhRzAIr/dsNNwvd/Al91/6ql E8bvQUfmW+NOesg5kOsLeRUaUjk+PvlXZKLtnSKZGY/X0iewjr8DC/KMyg3r4jC/ t2Qp5ivtkYRg72CToQFTB+O2wjmwRQdpZwkwphjIQHWMraEHM6NCpMuas1nasozO qdbAO+JpqbdMTrOPeS5qqyADKkqZCEtPzh8S/XBoOcg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=RJlGvO CE0SbsKGS8Y8e5Ss3mfOVGHG4i6hZcZ/1U62A=; b=aSrAaQzE37CyboGz/mXN2T aMBhVIppnmnLfvKRpyf9anJ6RDOCbDvCrs7YWHlVvF1dsGYRHLMJNd7mDKYW0w8p JDg/BZbo5uYU6nGq/DLn9dw6V9VI2Y+9AvrD3VcxU8EF9Rk15SW9wZx4GUUqRwfA p9kqvTuRsN6x0hfDJgVHFzou6hlbIYhunUp6Btm2UxbeEsNiD9qBGk91AGPa7ik6 nY9iHNvWv8px01n9nJhpsmVppWqBZN6AY+iCxlVaq1gVnrwOpGJlFBNV9biu4Fjg Bd3f98hpb54gwmo+8iO+khBfpVViabdqB121ofbCj+16tsPSb6fVok4j9xcp0uTQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrhedugdeltdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenfg hrlhcuvffnffculdejtddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddv necuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfrrghquhhivghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqh huihgvrhdrgiihiieqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepvdegudeuhfdtueeltedtveejheeh ieevueeigeelteegleejleeiueeiheegvefhnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenuc frrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihii X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 00:57:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:57:14 +0900 From: Michael Paquier To: SATYANARAYANA NARLAPURAM Cc: Pg Hackers Subject: Re: Postgres restart in the middle of exclusive backup and the presence of backup_label file Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="41D7x+U1RrRtAJbq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --41D7x+U1RrRtAJbq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 06:19:03PM -0800, SATYANARAYANA NARLAPURAM wrote: > Is there a plan in place to remove the exclusive backup option from the > core in PG 15/16? This was discussed, but removing it could also harm users relying on it. Perhaps it could be revisited, but I am not sure if this is worth worrying about either. > If we are keeping it then why not make it better? Well, non-exclusive backups are better by design in many aspects, so I don't quite see the point in spending time on something that has more limitations than what's already in place. -- Michael --41D7x+U1RrRtAJbq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmGgdzoACgkQnvQgOdby QH2uHg//R5iLeShl/7fTIeSRkC7oM5saaLmN8DGji5bWOcy7SSpk06ocjxondfot 0g3j/TjZOnGibGIQB9uoId0q2G7YHjHVxj7Qjfw+nJOgOdv18PtpAgr7Q7W6AEBW 8ViFQtkL6e9jrF5Im4QMXU6MoCRp7QFHjzDAEIFNqtgO6kaoxDfinro/kwvs0MEB DtEWUy8VYgzJEJ+tDy0dayciryP9MorqUczIw472ekSfD56TTJzxwqBmfMU5OuTe AbmGkUBz3Q4RKd4ZvgelRdTCgYcCJvq8zvx0mrg422vN4nZf5YUdHJb6/3U/M3Tg 3gsMXzT09OWy2wxm23Mc7CoRucNS7mi1kkJ1jHCpcY4cYPW+hWLQf5CqHgTkd2Q3 8E+xn0CzO4mOKSHXc/b4E6AH62YxPYAhURMHjvPD+0GepgzhC5e5H3Cl4iInzRIZ 2uRrD6WcraFSIAGDAr7XdqjujRtoWGd4isaDrx7L2NCyB52/qYtbO00toyhhqHKq +YumiXVBvwdCzDdTrGWiM+dudjMff3Wj8zOwZwYpBVqAr8k1iwRerXnGUoA2naOZ ZJN5Ls8ExYWm3wl5jBeZ2Sy4jMfaBtK29TKGRWpVkF/EuY5o9hBZmbVFOmG4vD2x qh0Nu9yunWOYGeQmihIIJ93UXItpEpiwGr7tc5h2/mwO4KiiA0E= =sJHB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --41D7x+U1RrRtAJbq--