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[50.244.222.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f18-20020a056e0212b200b00316ef6e729dsm5341709ilr.40.2023.03.09.04.51.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 09 Mar 2023 04:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by pryzbyj.telsasoft (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EDD0800957; Thu, 9 Mar 2023 06:51:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 06:51:31 -0600 From: Justin Pryzby To: Andres Freund Cc: Melanie Plageman , Kyotaro Horiguchi , tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us, vignesh21@gmail.com, lukas@fittl.com, alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org, magnus@hagander.net, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, thomas.munro@gmail.com, m.sakrejda@gmail.com Subject: Re: pg_stat_bgwriter.buffers_backend is pretty meaningless (and more?) Message-ID: References: <20230211182437.ype5tk3awen2htvw@awork3.anarazel.de> <3039228.1677972069@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20230306.152425.316894602450485455.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> <20230306.154843.178021884584228317.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> <20230306190919.ai6mxdq3sygyyths@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230306192409.daz5ivq4mbbr2ye7@liskov> <20230306193404.3btuacgc6um33mt2@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230307181844.hxnlfi3wa5lm7sm2@awork3.anarazel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230307181844.hxnlfi3wa5lm7sm2@awork3.anarazel.de> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 10:18:44AM -0800, Andres Freund wrote: > Hi, > > On 2023-03-06 15:21:14 -0500, Melanie Plageman wrote: > > Good point. Attached is what you suggested. I committed the transaction > > before the drop table so that the statistics would be visible when we > > queried pg_stat_io. > > Pushed, thanks for the report, analysis and fix, Tom, Horiguchi-san, Melanie. There's a 2nd portion of the test that's still flapping, at least on cirrusci. The issue that Tom mentioned is at: SELECT :io_sum_shared_after_writes > :io_sum_shared_before_writes; But what I've seen on cirrusci is at: SELECT :io_sum_shared_after_writes > :io_sum_shared_before_writes; https://api.cirrus-ci.com/v1/artifact/task/6701069548388352/log/src/test/recovery/tmp_check/regression.diffs https://api.cirrus-ci.com/v1/artifact/task/5355168397524992/log/src/test/recovery/tmp_check/regression.diffs https://api.cirrus-ci.com/v1/artifact/task/6142435751886848/testrun/build/testrun/recovery/027_stream_regress/log/regress_log_027_stream_regress It'd be neat if cfbot could show a histogram of test failures, although I'm not entirely sure what granularity would be most useful: the test that failed (027_regress) or the way it failed (:after_write > :before_writes). Maybe it's enough to show the test, with links to its recent failures. -- Justin