Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1poOp6-00041d-5I for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:23:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1poOp3-0000YU-FH for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:23:09 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1poOp2-0000YL-W1 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:23:09 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1poOp0-000JuO-3p for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:23:07 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id r9so5785621iot.6 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 06:23:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telsasoft-com.20221208.gappssmtp.com; s=20221208; t=1681737785; x=1684329785; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XCitYRVtlZ31PUHYs8qwcUyzA46h1qzXXiANv5uvz5s=; b=wbKOUWZJMmtFs2anjZWOyGxNgtz2Jkq6DKG8mQX1Gx1sbFM6FptYRoHjPZIYxgs21D BdcBH3wILByD2myTX5zvFMTQFfbKe2wd/gM9Yn6qurQlwS+ysezDB3/G5WcCqCz81E1D fpboLB20sIN0vwzuogOeLPeCoSrcVF333UGHOV+9by7vX9LBFBXOIrf/197tnYCkQRnu hVRfpBpGUXjyrJL3QVDnhZrRGkuUuRxtSQmyUyzOLPKtaVkSY2CO4jHjU4gt1tiV3vru FD4OF5/O9EtiRdRI4z73KdlbxCk5vqkgeaCusiMmezUi9+yIUIhNljLuK6GFm9eVdaS5 3JSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681737785; x=1684329785; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XCitYRVtlZ31PUHYs8qwcUyzA46h1qzXXiANv5uvz5s=; b=IwrE4SlkNuPbkpBoRheb3IUIOVEzA72L+NawlMpl3qKryrI7ExJsEhNqSkKnNlulYP mmhvJiC9hhkmucU20BgjGogTFYinSDCWpzSNYgJefRDVl9l3u1SP8FPGfTwYeRf++a1D Yf5MJste7yhx5cS8HivCkFxeoMDf4MnWQxEv7K1yUhbahzQEyMegwx+3VJz4DZqJIXLq jZGLzR8oaiwH7zeW8JcoArGFDwrv2A5OxfjW5wPAl3ej6rCVWfyD0n5coeu4Ov25XkMv MmEBHrmDeGNfYANQFKADm8CIfBVPqTiF6/qL1LXSKLoL48Y6CRxM9g3paH5ybt5zM7lz 7Waw== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9fbmA3z2h8ZYwRHcIr+coWpgFvj1QJDTIc5T8sNMgNSOvzX2NVS ek69JFS40nPNi+w1MMoA0ohSRw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350YKwHWNwPcRr1vJPj+8zBw0ljwsEg3fWKERSPXAwpliVcqTuR/RY0NWj5eH/Zcyp9sFlWt0tg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:22d8:b0:760:ebae:4f8d with SMTP id e24-20020a05660222d800b00760ebae4f8dmr3969115ioe.8.1681737784994; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pryzbyj.telsasoft (charmander.telsasoft.com. [50.244.222.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v17-20020a056638359100b0040b0fa8a82dsm3302509jal.33.2023.04.17.06.23.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 17 Apr 2023 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pryzbyj.telsasoft (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D95C8800F0D; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:23:03 -0500 From: Justin Pryzby To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Jeff Davis , Andres Freund , Bruce Momjian , Tom Lane , Thomas Munro , Robert Haas , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Move defaults toward ICU in 16? Message-ID: References: <20230217205009.4sy4lmmqanbhjsgb@awork3.anarazel.de> <558f794c351fb73596e4b05d96f66d01d56b4a50.camel@j-davis.com> <438b15cf88c9c5cf0cf1c24bf7b835d6362a8e0c.camel@j-davis.com> <10bb0e53ba16e5865ea4d37575ee15d4df5dc043.camel@j-davis.com> <0ad3543a-40d9-17f9-794f-75ea0106544a@enterprisedb.com> <27767473241239ed7b518fc7c4c78d98e2376b3a.camel@j-davis.com> <82c4c816-06f6-d3e3-ba02-fca4a5cef065@enterprisedb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <82c4c816-06f6-d3e3-ba02-fca4a5cef065@enterprisedb.com> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 09:33:25AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 16.03.23 14:52, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > On 09.03.23 20:14, Jeff Davis wrote: > > > > Let's come back to that after dealing with the other two. > > > > > > Leaving 0001 open for now. > > > > I suspect making a change like this now would result in a bloodbath on > > the build farm that we could do without.  I suggest revisiting this > > after the commit fest ends. > > I don't object to this patch. I suggest waiting until next week to commit > it and then see what happens. It's easy to revert if it goes terribly. Is this still being considered for v16 ? -- Justin