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[162.195.168.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-703d1f705ddsm31649357b3.92.2025.04.08.09.24.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 08 Apr 2025 09:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:24:39 -0500 From: Nathan Bossart To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Feature freeze Message-ID: References: <26fb5487-4f74-4a05-8539-d7b860104b64@eisentraut.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26fb5487-4f74-4a05-8539-d7b860104b64@eisentraut.org> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 06:00:27PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 08.04.25 16:59, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is a calendar designation that indicates >> that a period expires when the date passes everywhere on Earth. > > Yes, that works intuitively when you specify that sometimes ends when a > certain day ends, for example: > > "The feature development phase ends at the end of day of April 7, AoE." > > That means, everyone everywhere can just look up at their clock and see, > it's still April 7, it's still going. (Of course, others can then do the > analysis and keep going until some time on April 8, but that would be sort > of against the spirit.) I always forget if AoE is UTC+12 or UTC-12. "Anywhere on Earth" sounds to me like it means "the first moment it's this time anywhere on Earth," which would be some point during April 7th for me. So every year, I go to Wikipedia, which reminds me it actually means "the moment this time has passed everywhere on Earth." At this point, I can finally convert to UTC and then to my own time zone in my head. If we just said April 8th, 12:00:00 UTC, I'd immediately know that my entire April 7th was fair game. Of course, I hope to usually be done committing things much earlier... -- nathan