Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1u2CYH-00Eb2P-SI for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:15:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1u2CYG-00CiPc-7j for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:15:56 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1u2CYF-00CiP2-UX for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:15:56 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1u2CYD-004AyU-31 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 17:15:55 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2025010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=mPKfKrypeBVCrhZnKE1avnEq4tFJ2l/C3vXv5KEU2ck=; b=VpbczBl0AJsOFCU7UsNPmykJ9u RFhYT8DCRWQ8q7BYclNn58qdD6DESvmo6EH9vY2C2/p7Pl6Iml+5u9b/nPSginumwK1UJ5UiZyNU4 ij0gdUQEKOzzVLirUs3nLqLhTr190EKgQTRtEaIORdNhF47eDOAPS5Im+2bgnIT6UGi/oCJTZYtgj S1kgCiuDTb1eDIFDwqzeZ6BN76+sOE7CwQrPF/Kce+mcbvLfVbrkBEONnFeLbLXFJsj8cCeR0idEg oXkhauUjHUMZkdQcQiO/WHNgjFLjvQKQeDvVZmJGwMVY8duhnPEi91QC4CSTEYA8aUJuxzFh/Gn7m w+/1FNcQ==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1u2CY7-004OYd-0Q; Tue, 08 Apr 2025 13:15:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:15:47 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Jacob Champion Cc: Wolfgang Walther , Daniel Gustafsson , Christoph Berg , Andres Freund , Peter Eisentraut , Tom Lane , PostgreSQL Hackers , Thomas Munro , Nazir Bilal Yavuz , Antonin Houska Subject: Re: [PoC] Federated Authn/z with OAUTHBEARER Message-ID: References: <96b5b38b-2fac-409f-b922-f7fd653bf847@technowledgy.de> <18f84e6a-41cf-4313-8bea-6007868dd05a@technowledgy.de> <214ec3cc-7531-4360-8103-663581d2149f@technowledgy.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:13:46AM -0700, Jacob Champion wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:10 AM Wolfgang Walther > wrote: > > And if that means making libpq modular at run-time, then this should be planned and built with all deps, and other use-cases (like static linking) in mind - and not like it is right now. > > I think that'd be neat in concept, but specifically this thread is > discussing a PG18 open item. For future releases, if we're happy with > how Curl gets split out, maybe that would be fuel for other > delay-loaded client dependencies. I'm not sure. Well, if we think we are going to do that, it seems we would need a different architecture than the one being proposed for PG 18, which could lead to a lot of user/developer API churn. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.