Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rtxwe-001BP8-IA for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2024 22:58:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rtxwd-00DueS-JS for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2024 22:58:31 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rtxwb-00DueK-Rq for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2024 22:58:31 +0000 Received: from fout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.144]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rtxwY-001tvK-Mh for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2024 22:58:28 +0000 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailfout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE361380198; Mon, 8 Apr 2024 18:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 08 Apr 2024 18:58:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paquier.xyz; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1712617104; x=1712703504; bh=qY9N9FXPXs HjjAn8AClH3xG5M5PpCdA27nsS9oo+df4=; b=XMFHbWddRrTTXGd2N3gEQNmN2+ 3SuQsKehplREEaT0vgeC7DJDOo362JEnAubUF/YWYyDGYDD1mXCwtR7Lshmo9Dh2 wFm4l57qpNOl4vyUsCfwbDpZwaZLucZrSP3PZ+Xs09/5DSC00/nceEL8Jvak1pVC 7Lid+b0WokGUCiuJ9pHaryOWTXbCUqkioNnAFErD4UxrfSDHjBFUqcfXX636Vycn ZVxkWM2qz+DEbs914gcYw9roCrilciY9z3zI0zrrUdgHN6tJSGYgpKdTi8pnnauG 9ZSt8vXUV0jsuRFwbSSRcO6K1GZeevdGWwUSsu87OtfxhTYe6yeIkGODYV5g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; t=1712617104; x=1712703504; bh=qY9N9FXPXsHjjAn8AClH3xG5M5Pp CdA27nsS9oo+df4=; b=ShQfwqAXpc/RVm9UaMUlElR1wa0ylwiljraZhM0Mi+5F YkJeRpHKQV1jRpSq8EgPH2UH4gPkx+cp7LjjBv0QOmx93RIXLY/x8oEKKMax37RS Bi5TWc2L3ZyQ9ijj8UWdBiu0DPzkAm54YI5hyaUScajWte0V7tRbpo0ds06j8c7z V+cRva0LwDU1Sm9lQ/fDsDhJ/HYl0Wn7KTND6ingTMw1wjixReZqmnIPl7gYEvJI XRsltM+pF1RT0ZtnhmpRg/YQbhSkhX/fgJiRDavzqQ1hhq84swgFIdS0yj4ATzIE GbVmT7T0FjivT8Kr2fdFFLi3GKj5kAXmJA4YVbXXbQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrudegjedgudegucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne gfrhhlucfvnfffucdljedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredt tddvnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfrrghquhhivghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesph grqhhuihgvrhdrgiihiieqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteelieefudffhffhtdetleeg geegfffhkeeuveetiefgudduvedutefggeeivdejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiih ii X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0fe9450f:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 8 Apr 2024 18:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 07:58:07 +0900 From: Michael Paquier To: Thomas Munro Cc: Robert Haas , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: post-freeze damage control Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xmfKCNx/o0GZCOvW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --xmfKCNx/o0GZCOvW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:35:00AM +1200, Thomas Munro wrote: > Mr Paquier this year announced his personal code freeze a few weeks > back on social media, which seemed like an interesting idea I might > adopt. Perhaps that is what some other people are doing without > saying so, and perhaps the time they are using for that is the end of > the calendar year. I might still be naturally inclined to crunch-like > behaviour, but it wouldn't be at the same time as everyone else, > except all the people who follow the same advice. That's more linked to the fact that I was going silent without a laptop for a few weeks before the end of the release cycle, and a way to say to not count on me, while I was trying to keep my room clean to avoid noise for others who would rush patches. It is a vacation period for schools in Japan as the fiscal year finishes at the end of March, while the rest of the world still studies/works, so that makes=20 trips much easier with areas being less busy when going abroad. If you want to limit commit activity during this period, the answer is simple then: require that all the committers live in Japan. Jokes apart, I really try to split commit effort across the year and not rush things at the last minute. If something's not agreed upon and commit-ready by the 15th of March, the chances that I would apply it within the release cycle are really slim. That's a kind of personal policy I have in place for a few years now. -- Michael --xmfKCNx/o0GZCOvW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmYUdn8ACgkQnvQgOdby QH0SZw/9HvCMTIzaCgZ137wtzdO9Sc2ctw3BaZ6UJtiUqrVYl2GpEPsRhRlNfifq 1sfd5psTf6vC7UV762qgtlDmoZ7oe1TI5eMbbkZ1CQb8/ZRLiYSYpDNt6erj2BGf 9McuSAFM7rzfsVsBjfzJ8G0bRM2Ai69ArBpqpHw4iP9eUeSdun7jeUnCAmT+IWZW P+YxkX/kytXA8V2Ym73Zb5QWG0RCSshBwjurBRo2IMOyh8xrcYomcYBnrQjtqDaL sMReJd9yjEfvSSLIVItoe3z0MnfBqRfndQHJiL5/NoBaFAPL/5LmSrlGM0aIjx9H NYG1MzYv65sjLrFzcS7o1BLRB4RM9ixpvfmYvqFmV125wF43cMRxiJwPgC8CxgL2 WpEiXAOuopDJHIzX4dP/DI34/kAsSVCQTMd8PUt0NVnyGssZe1aEaJKKtOeI78fY a7dLE0yw+s6fDLYapDHmrrwFmg66lUWmpV8yydakMsVEL3thIg6hCaP3Z+4q2qQx ypOFRpk8xWZQ+AJ146GANgZ/9i/QM0RW2wwkxjA7D+3ZljEWtUt/cAtEIffM6sq1 wkW7i+4NITuEJjRW139kkBK0niZR6tcxjY/yaWMJmR+565jLotawWUfrVe0blgqY oYreaTnNgy9PLBIk3ri+U/Nj6tKhXoRpoGgz8aCTA6UmI5Nk8wM= =Gd/Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xmfKCNx/o0GZCOvW--