Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s1JW6-00BCnS-BD for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 05:25:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s1JW3-00FFyU-2P for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 05:25:27 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s1JW2-00FFyL-P4 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 05:25:27 +0000 Received: from wfhigh2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.153]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s1JVy-000cgA-Vr for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 05:25:27 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfhigh.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1EB18000AD; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:25:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paquier.xyz; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1714368320; x=1714454720; bh=1zq8hAaz8H QEav+GqQPrDoXWgzSV9i/5zBJpuvOrA0w=; b=TyhfBQW0O+0lfVOar5CQHrHQqp 5mGVO0uGC2RiFWNDHRDpljZFix2tWK4jWK6kG/ilUjsinHUMmZJ25nAcr+omJ4tj uybFFYHf5ZSq8/rK9nxCy1Awu6IbaD0z7YEhuqZ+Bnl66U0FHkSvidmehXAQnty5 TlJ4B4TrLlbq9hrRHDTD7nUmXCjeZePnWgtCsNxwiFrHxSBs8ZORLXXQGc5ecTc1 OaklBLO6cxljI5aL3PaExoS/XTMbT07JktsuoxYKSaSyLiKIY1erJVhjSQrRZaWk K55e9WZPNgQH5VhjzTTUTBEfFMw0RCeEiZNG2k0sRAUQ8V8a0HpW0bw7NJ3w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; t=1714368320; x=1714454720; bh=1zq8hAaz8HQEav+GqQPrDoXWgzSV 9i/5zBJpuvOrA0w=; b=P99UUNmFGzFJv3l8aUAl6IRfJeo+LNYhNu3oKeeQCVUt tJjWhLYiVysviKOXHZRxlNLn+HO58ZPTAMy0/u9jY/qryStPwcV/i40S0egCBEky tb2gS9wtFNCRRz06ZyBdi3RirEFTGygKxYl2HivtByQQZWTqWD9W4TEVeXvw1LRI To2VyiPfJ/PvaJl0n4wRCsj64lHg7agOCQ1is1g/oX5dPM/1qOvIqNgoktVHGQ+Z As9Iall5Dc35G19h13fBVhP+myZMl+64aytq5ehHMUy2E6TmMxOp3kyGThkwbuUk 5AQGZVlohjkaWm39STHL8SG8jNDTrlwko3vbgUFqUg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvledrvddtledgudehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucgfrhhlucfvnfffucdljedtmdenucfjughrpeffhf fvvefukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfrrghq uhhivghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihiieqnecuggftrfgrthhtvg hrnhepteelieefudffhffhtdetleeggeegfffhkeeuveetiefgudduvedutefggeeivdej necuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitg hhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihii X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0fe9450f:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:25:10 +0900 From: Michael Paquier To: Tom Lane Cc: Richard Guo , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: A failure in prepared_xacts test Message-ID: References: <1068977.1714367460@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QPLhHumC/zyqoLsF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1068977.1714367460@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --QPLhHumC/zyqoLsF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 01:11:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Up to now, we've only worried about whether tests running in parallel > within a single test suite can interact. It's quite scary to think > that the meson setup has expanded the possibility of interactions > to our entire source tree. Maybe that was a bad idea and we should > fix the meson infrastructure to not do that. I fear that otherwise, > we'll get bit regularly by very-low-probability bugs of this kind. I don't disagree with your point, still I'm not sure that this can be made entirely bullet-proof. Anyway, I think that we should still improve this test and make it more robust for parallel operations: installcheck fails equally on HEAD if there is a prepared transaction on the backend where the tests run, and that seems like a bad idea to me to rely on cluster-wide scans for what should be a "local" test. -- Michael --QPLhHumC/zyqoLsF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmYvLzYACgkQnvQgOdby QH1CPBAAjcLln0NU4rp2HRpQldQ+ieOP3Lk0HPBf1PmeTN8X1L+qMkoDVDNgMNOG nJ3omRpspGxsoVucGDzrlmCQ5NWvd2XZQtHxfL6UqmUWr+aob4bxiKfggMNLakF3 BVjMQ7rcdruVE5HCyFinVoTcLycLBQiAwF9YIY5reQG3Fru+YW1alLieQZ2I5Jy9 w5TzfffxrAxI7pIhFcpZbuBhmKlNxIjNco6CD1UMxdDOIUPC/syk5uMKHC87WmvH 1FeBob0fTWhngRHWu2zdk1u9hc7UJUr7pcbf21M0MpeQSaE2kmlm9ayNjjadJe2S IFlglPZriSehCruFIY+XuB47vT6FuG23zxr6n58CHh+g/6hrKFlPGoZwjELU2YCk 2orNIpHzBFNZ24vykNqwZGEOkkD6C38lLTP9d8dPnxnkzQaQ7pwneM4Zymb6rsXH wayqefeF4+88lMveRHDRTQPB4X7HsZ8hiFlpvyiYg59vsS5NSUBiBDt412Q5K5NZ VRmGZ85oN614kjV16wea1s1l79Thz5YH+wKqFBw5KK541HO/k+3uzmnBNf/P5eXU rcGa06zid+Zwgq/t+zgATbX4fWalhmpJ+4fF62GDqH+DYpyhHG9PZ1BQColjyR+F kSGEF/3mIhR+HrCt5O8otgzbRcbyZ4ntujqWdbZLp+CxUjwSQlg= =w5Vf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QPLhHumC/zyqoLsF--