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From: Bertrand Drouvot <[email protected]>
To: Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
Cc: John H <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Allow logical failover slots to wait on synchronous replication
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:19:50 +0000
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References: <CA+-JvFtq6f7+wAwSdud-x0yMTeMejUhpkyid1Xa_VNpRd_-oPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<Zme1hr0Dls9nPQX8@nathan>
	<[email protected]>

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:00:46AM +0000, Bertrand Drouvot wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 09:25:10PM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 03:51:05PM -0700, John H wrote:
> > > The existing 'standby_slot_names' isn't great for users who are running
> > > clusters with quorum-based synchronous replicas. For instance, if
> > > the user has  synchronous_standby_names = 'ANY 3 (A,B,C,D,E)' it's a
> > > bit tedious to have to reconfigure the standby_slot_names to set it to
> > > the most updated 3 sync replicas whenever different sync replicas start
> > > lagging. In the event that both GUCs are set, 'standby_slot_names' takes
> > > precedence.
> > 
> > Hm.  IIUC you'd essentially need to set standby_slot_names to "A,B,C,D,E"
> > to get the desired behavior today.  That might ordinarily be okay, but it
> > could cause logical replication to be held back unnecessarily if one of the
> > replicas falls behind for whatever reason.  A way to tie standby_slot_names
> > to synchronous replication instead does seem like it would be useful in
> > this case.
> 
> FWIW, I have the same understanding and also think your proposal would be
> useful in this case.

A few random comments about v1:

1 ====

+               int mode = SyncRepWaitMode;

It's set to SyncRepWaitMode and then never change. Worth to get rid of "mode"?

2 ====

+               static XLogRecPtr       lsn[NUM_SYNC_REP_WAIT_MODE] = {InvalidXLogRecPtr};

I did some testing and saw that the lsn[] values were not always set to
InvalidXLogRecPtr right after. It looks like that, in that case, we should
avoid setting the lsn[] values at compile time. Then, what about?

1. remove the "static". 

or

2. keep the static but set the lsn[] values after its declaration.

3 ====

-       /*
-        * Return false if not all the standbys have caught up to the specified
-        * WAL location.
-        */
-       if (caught_up_slot_num != standby_slot_names_config->nslotnames)
-               return false;
+               if (!XLogRecPtrIsInvalid(lsn[mode]) && lsn[mode] >= wait_for_lsn)
+                       return true;

lsn[] values are/(should have been, see 2 above) just been initialized to
InvalidXLogRecPtr so that XLogRecPtrIsInvalid(lsn[mode]) will always return
true. I think this check is not needed then.

4 ====

> > > I did some very brief pgbench runs to compare the latency. Client instance
> > > was running pgbench and 10 logical clients while the Postgres box hosted
> > > the writer and 5 synchronous replicas.

> > > There's a hit to TPS

Out of curiosity, did you compare with standby_slot_names_from_syncrep set to off
and standby_slot_names not empty?

Regards,

-- 
Bertrand Drouvot
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com






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