Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1soO5g-00ArDH-AL for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:13:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1soO5f-0016lQ-TR for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:13:03 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1soO5f-0016lI-JN for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:13:03 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1soO5b-000eoH-NR for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2024 14:13:02 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2024011501; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=0GGem0ku0Q0SZto+bOnJzj14PTNu+VQSAuoj+ToMUgU=; b=FZrWcvebjDtcKqb0s8uzC/yI2j PuAHmZpymiwmclAVfUN8kcvDyWNqB+Xg3VpI6VMkZEBwUw3xcBbnZtFu/AR7m0EV//oZwl3tG96MS ZexbHakpDDIgzLW02VcqAuPr4b0pcifuzs/KP+XRWp9X3yzzECodiQ4wP86zqod9E4cIj+8WTwoag //xDxqXzuHgMN1iREbLgOw4rYGxSBf7H8MYrd7t+6nE4jWZ+PloEhSF+H8HmExFmLylw6VEycCv3f Vc9G7q+/huKysFSqbvNVfdpNClRGWGFdjnZdyBkCN9KA1yhDDycyT1ijcv4iqQ7fqViONyxBtsgcm PueKiPgg==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1soO5a-005tk2-0r; Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:12:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:12:58 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Masahiko Sawada Cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio , Alvaro Herrera , Nathan Bossart , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Message-ID: References: <202409070955.wyuhquqflbxg@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 09:52:42AM -0700, Masahiko Sawada wrote: > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 11:29 PM Jelte Fennema-Nio wrote: > > > > On Tue, 10 Sept 2024 at 04:47, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Yes. There are so many changes at the source code level it is unwise to > > > try and get them into the main release notes. If someone wants to > > > create an addendum, like was suggested for pure performance > > > improvements, that would make sense. > > > > I agree that the release notes cannot fit every change. But I also > > don't think any extension author reads the complete git commit log > > every release, so taking the stance that they should be seems > > unhelpful. And the "Source Code" section does exist so at some level > > you seem to disagree with that too. So what is the way to decide that > > something makes the cut for the "Source Code" section? > > > > I think as an extension author there are usually three types of > > changes that are relevant: > > 1. New APIs/hooks that are meant for extension authors > > 2. Stuff that causes my existing code to not compile anymore > > 3. Stuff that changes behaviour of existing APIs code in a > > incompatible but silent way > > > > For 1, I think adding them to the release notes makes total sense, > > especially if the new APIs are documented not only in source code, but > > also on the website. Nathan his change is of this type, so I agree > > with him it should be in the release notes. > > +1. I think that the increment JSON parser that is already mentioned > in the release note would fall in this type too; it's not a feature > aimed just for extension authors, but it's kind of source and internal > changes IMO. Since the DSM registry feature is described in the doc, I > think it would make sense to have it in the release notes and probably > has a link to the "Requesting Shared Memory After Startup" section. This commit? commit 8b2bcf3f287 Author: Nathan Bossart Date: Fri Jan 19 14:24:36 2024 -0600 Introduce the dynamic shared memory registry. Yes, we have time to add it. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com When a patient asks the doctor, "Am I going to die?", he means "Am I going to die soon?"