Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1suibs-009CU4-4s for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2024 01:20:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1suibr-00Frzz-Eu for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2024 01:20:27 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1suibr-00Frxl-59 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2024 01:20:27 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1suibo-001YkE-Fh; Sun, 29 Sep 2024 01:20:25 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2024011501; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=X2n8hFY3DpsnhHYTVgALfy6TwSs0/6Wri49vLroDtv8=; b=QwdHjkpqvMQ4o3hhaNCvuheU4r SI2grCUHvYbQ6Qf9IArVaRX2GbzNkIFYvLDk/MWvFWNNPL6j9EYBojZZyZrz139axpZwn1OLiOlMn N+J+DixADtbuFvEkfB/kw8b0TfpX+c+5viBOUMTxPhfmwGatpWCZYWJJ3m8eoNLFiJ3yEozGwNb68 UpCvoq6ZoFtj52NfwgXOROrS3SfgSL4MCTVrftkUXI0jCyoolqm4Cnzz0847eA82buKOUhRITWqP4 YSieI6VWmHBUvrbkf+lMI6zpL0o5nUBaWBpQNVhtpxyzQizzK+Qvcagh0p6UOb+EjG7k1QjVi17p1 H7eH0FtQ==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1suibm-00DiMw-13; Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:20:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:20:22 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Amit Kapila Cc: Tom Lane , "Jonathan S. Katz" , Laurenz Albe , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Message-ID: References: <0749f42a-17e1-42c9-a8d4-542fcb9fafeb@postgresql.org> <7fd6ce37f6d14678b5024767aef7f8c5a414ba0c.camel@cybertec.at> <2536416.1726862711@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 03:08:52PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 1:50 AM Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 04:05:11PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian writes: > > > > Patch applied to PG 17. > > > > > > I don't see a push? > > > > Push was delayed because my test script found some uncommitted files due > > to earlier testing. Should be fine now. > > > > > linkend="app-pgcreatesubscriber">pg_createsubscriber, > a utility that creates logical replicas from physical standbys > > > This description is okay but according to me, the more compelling use > case is that this new utility helps to allow online upgrades of > physical replication setup as explained in the blog [1]. See the > section: "Upgrading Streaming (Physical) Replication Setup". > > > > > linkend="pgupgrade">pg_upgrade now > preserves replication slots on both publishers and subscribers > > > It is better to write the above statement as: > "pg_upgrade now preserves replication slots on > publishers and full subscription's state on subscribers". This is > because replication slots are preserved on publishers. The subscribers > preserve the subscription state. So, as I understand it, this preservation only happens when the _old_ Postgres version is 17+. Do we want to try and explain that in the Postgres 17 release notes? -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com When a patient asks the doctor, "Am I going to die?", he means "Am I going to die soon?"