Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0rxX-00DaBf-Ig for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:32:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0rxU-00DRFi-NQ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:32:13 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0rxU-00DRFZ-CA for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:32:12 +0000 Received: from fout-a1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.144]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t0rxS-001GhP-OE for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:32:12 +0000 Received: from phl-compute-08.internal (phl-compute-08.phl.internal [10.202.2.48]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9747C1380193; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-08.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:32:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paquier.xyz; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1729038729; x=1729125129; bh=Mw7lzlSnq8 xKeAJ90VSpTi9lMWhy22NgmWr2SX5pcwk=; b=rGA+EC5ub/ZJdqpsjBQ9HP2CUk pBoTISkuFxTqLIgyArF0ZhRuanxgphw2+JQEeG/kBN+7f/EbMFJfCUeNVob/M9wd W2LUCvv5Rg2awIx0kJTSMC7kDzYTExwo/vqoqDuOpf+Dus8VUSIeTl/4f0/sqOYQ ewuOAEHhmSpSkxdMqPEx8dOC2Rf6JC7Y4NTIvlsBOrI5kbpjFB0nzwRfGKcadnKx NveFRXidk4WQwbpOfIxTvs8zurhXXCix6AzkVaU+3cKk3BhMkhu/b8X6TIzEO+py /rHa3qwpIjiboRa85oZ6+yGrJnnUEuA1vjzTu4t5eU/FwFV6iXT9PFJv9eNg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; t=1729038729; x=1729125129; bh=Mw7lzlSnq8xKeAJ90VSpTi9lMWhy 22NgmWr2SX5pcwk=; b=QgXzTm1TGDkNynL6yKhO2I/dUchm3oyRT+ZEZSIxhjuD Zx21brkwpyoN4kfx9Wb7fXsBeXNHNwKwL7X8rF09cuGoxaTdkfSK+ULEzolVNPrc TrIEmYIrbPDEstZGtGFjG350FOv1DEZnK0a6AfPaGHS94vhjuTm29ctfzYNr5boj prVDEgrp8oBr7X2Lw9THL5cCzN97THTAdr2l94LT90LevU1gp7rNGG8V9dNdCiaN HWcD+qrIMgPDlzGD7NH/pWL1rLXQ1RGQAYMuA5i7vM7T69lPrRSQpQ0Y8bdNgo63 ia6VpC7eZo9/NV/Nh3ODxYIbgUYLjGYcACCaOlKdLQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvdegkedgfeeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnh htshculddquddttddmnegfrhhlucfvnfffucdljedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfhf gggtuggjsehgtderredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfrrghquhhivghruc eomhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihiieqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteel ieefudffhffhtdetleeggeegfffhkeeuveetiefgudduvedutefggeeivdejnecuvehluh hsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhes phgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihiidpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouh htpdhrtghpthhtohepshgvihhnohihuhesohhsshdrnhhtthgurghtrgdrtghomhdprhgt phhtthhopehpghhsqhhlqdhhrggtkhgvrhhssehpohhsthhgrhgvshhqlhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0fe9450f:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 09:31:49 +0900 From: Michael Paquier To: Seino Yuki Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Doc: shared_memory_size_in_huge_pages with the "SHOW" command. Message-ID: References: <420584fd274f9ec4f337da55ffb3b790@oss.nttdata.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7CLYVjqsUcvmowc/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <420584fd274f9ec4f337da55ffb3b790@oss.nttdata.com> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --7CLYVjqsUcvmowc/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 05:25:04PM +0900, Seino Yuki wrote: > Alternatively, the "SHOW" command can be used, though the documentation > states, > "Note that the server must be shut down to view this runtime-computed > parameter.[1]" > This wording could be misunderstood to imply that the parameter cannot be > accessed > while the server is running. I am not sure that neither mentioning nor recommending SHOW for this area is a good idea, the point being to encourage its use before the server is running as we don't want to allocate anything when tuning it. Point taken that the current wording can be confusing because of the "*must* be shut down". How about doing a simpler s/must/should/ for a softer wording? -- Michael --7CLYVjqsUcvmowc/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmcPCXUACgkQnvQgOdby QH0hmQ//RCKVvCIBZvKQY8/azU6EsnCWlJ0wh5rBBL1npSHjdh9dVIgDpE2YbuXG Bwcr6CIQRS4IpZqrjABPVNzoaq16aYG6hDl7VpRnGofenme93FloWJjBqbdO4BHy mDb4WhlDDdCsqAQVnwsSiRTRCxF9NZ7ogvCjOzV+3uD4faFlcPgjqs8Wa+oyozrx sAXTuwmp3PTn0mu6T8xcVjG6+twdxL/xwFbhLyxKEJBl2QIkD/7TSrEg2LVp4Oab zIAM3MXz/mQkxhaO/7pyZbYnJJxn2xUBwyqnWyjPn35sa+tLWd1P8HcHeBIWjY0K fQ1XoZS+JrN0LJdz41HT/iFimP3ET37iM/VVmjoAGPh8+b/4+rfAKpw7WSSssLKF vZROfNlIclJVU964vtcsNSNUkvZPeclpGfBOcBvIIq+UlxPRtW44qacvIOF35gGn 5xihiHMTDj6xI6G+MUytJF5Ip+cDLz5U8ifxNkUxwDAOy2R3kgwS3x4DpQomWF3P H7qWu8U4551niLOdhOpXgRjD+DDOBOMTNFFJsqVgPmj7YsrfW7kXzloVzwXvLSVo jrXFghmPUurysJAr8B1YnXUW7AM/kqMFvFAg+IR2z0r2qy/Olg+7OWz+KK0fz5fe UyQpVqFAozngYO+17miwKFVQRWsYGvXRBe8i5/ysEMYXsjyALgM= =RM07 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7CLYVjqsUcvmowc/--