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Perhaps it's questionable how many > people we'll help by back-patching this into one additional release, > but if you feel it's worth it I wouldn't be inclined to argue. +1 for v14 as this version is still around for two years. Even getting that down to v13 would be OK for me at this stage, as, assuming that something is messed up for a reason or another, we would still have one year to address any issue that could pop up on REL_13_STABLE. Now, the conflicts that exist between v14 and v13 in pgarch.[c|h] are really risky due to the design changes done in d75288fb27b8, so it is much better to leave v13 out of scope.. -- Michael --gsjJQ0JfmaQbl/7H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmc1RcYACgkQnvQgOdby QH0Bsg//Q7sg85B+kZ8nAS4vFjvKSRO3fYMLOgP+c94gA0FPFNRpu3X8qyMCKJTN 1tdYJxHM98HILn5zC5lKIR6hVgGLvdJTFFBLejU5LxvOB7/khJ5Wy4O8oIAJE1/s J2w5Pfsf1qF5dVVlB+vVMJZCYvoG3gz7kb7MTc1cQPdgvUw99iKvxELa2gmNpDXF ueGWcN6a5l+32Ijl2ZPEX2wf8mLgvMMczVM9jpZ54K+0K9rIep3D8zwcAQPh1b8+ JdR6tLTEZsMow3v+KAMHlmqNt7ZE0fecy/l6yK3136nyBbBjfZrpCuftsmwDz7A8 dBftlo1P8bfRPfhHCcDyYySn8L+5R8nG47hqiarebdom1L2UMb3hMJoD3ycCCing R0b6hGvGBNHMrEc0o6r0SlLE7te60ymUdSRMVf+TQIu1+uNsnrJPEhG9XLclc4sL voCUbe+guupzLalO0sYqFJ7ZT4AhHSkar5I3Mn3tzh9Bi9iyEKMzWT/SDe5tzWqI KgNHVjjauKSaWDgweU2mJbvRfs1STMaoDlrPgSpG9lzLqUZrO1iMME0miN94Qyl3 OtUEtoJMJjEDbFnwpkGs8BpNQp0m8ajsgTp9LSpNu3NBxZhYfqqi0KU6kqHI/4L1 KDtVsRG5Ef/04F261kpEkNnPNiRl9q7UVw3Q7BcTgv1ksGW/UKA= =yGit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gsjJQ0JfmaQbl/7H--