Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKPXV-0035ci-49 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 May 2025 22:46:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKPXS-003lNe-Bs for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 May 2025 22:46:22 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1uKPXS-003lNW-2Z for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 May 2025 22:46:22 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uKPXQ-000RiW-0I for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 May 2025 22:46:21 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2025010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=FHCwidtE9nxzaW/L5U7VpcBuGpA4CtOpdLWVvjLxJiA=; b=N0hF+LBcpH9DX+KkKdYa1ptrQT PSnZvqhzBpyRthah4qTisXuGEq11uYX5CoZjTGWknU3AIESUNoAUO4FRfSVMCCkAxz1iQN2zv3WWC AJGXeFP3E4dE9Rr4bJ4WGa8KWOgjsqy59kATbDStEqka1UIb2I97xfOZpKwgc+yb3l2lx2GzdZVTL Asdc+xrIYDWYN+bs+9tGZOyx0G7ib8JsVRy0ZShIICpHZFFlY4T6ELxrFy2SfAX/iWocbCkjgmh6D HbwbppksXre30SW3/NTj97Yc8SoKjYhWkJyZ+zNFrMzZ6d8/GU/ah9RCl6KjwZNQ5GqXfEa0y/z5V /yfUEr+Q==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1uKPXO-001bSw-0v; Wed, 28 May 2025 18:46:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 18:46:18 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Joe Conway Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera , Nazir Bilal Yavuz , PostgreSQL-development , Thomas Munro Subject: Re: PG 18 release notes draft committed Message-ID: References: <202505230754.fsspbpqhybqt@alvherre.pgsql> <03b04188-02e2-4bd8-b65b-18c3e1cc40c4@joeconway.com> <74750dd6-d2aa-4876-8c30-d241c1273f4e@joeconway.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <74750dd6-d2aa-4876-8c30-d241c1273f4e@joeconway.com> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 02:54:29PM -0400, Joe Conway wrote: > On 5/27/25 17:27, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 10:20:08AM -0400, Joe Conway wrote: > > > On 5/23/25 09:47, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 09:54:54AM +0200, Álvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > > I also think that showing an XML-ish format of a commit message is > > > > > unhelpful, not to mention hard to read. Showing a few actual examples > > > > > would be better. > > > > > Agreed, but the XML came from Joe Conway so I am hesitant to > > > remove it > > > > myself without feedback from him. > > > > > > > > > I am not married to it, but I would say that I find pure examples > > > confusing/ambiguous. To me at least the XML-ish specification is easier to > > > understand. > > > > > > Perhaps both the specification as-is and one or two examples added? > > > > Yeah, I think some people like syntax, others like examples. > > What do you think about providing links into the archives for good > representative log messages rather than making up a contrived example and/or > copy/pasting them into the wiki page itself? Sure, we can just link to: https://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-committers/ and they can choose any recent commit. > Also, looking at the wiki page, my inclination would be to add an "Examples" > section at the bottom of the wiki page -- does that work or do you think it > ought to go just under the "General layout" syntax section? Sure, makes sense. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.