Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:44:15 +0200
From: Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>
To: Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>,
	PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
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Subject: Re: libpq-oauth: a mid-beta naming check
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Re: Jacob Champion
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 2:39 AM Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl> wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 01:20, Jacob Champion
> > <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> > > So, as we approach Beta 3: can anyone think of a way that this plan will fail?
> >
> > It's not entirely clear what plan exactly you talk about here. Are you
> > saying you want to remove the -MAJOR suffix now for PG18? Or you want
> > to postpone doing that until PG19, when you would have designed a
> > stable API?
> 
> That is a PG19 plan. I don't want to make any changes for 18 unless
> someone can see a fatal flaw; this is just my mid-beta check.

FTR, fine with me.

> > If your goal is to remove this
> > during-upgrade breakage after PG19, then I'd say that seems totally
> > fine for a new feature.
> 
> That's the hope, yes.

Well, at the PG19 release time it will no longer be new. But the plan
sounds like a good one.

Christoph