Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujusg-00DYzn-OF for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:17:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujusf-0031Wc-Du for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:17:41 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ujuse-0031WJ-Qe for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:17:41 +0000 Received: from fhigh-a4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.155]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ujusb-001DN6-1O for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:17:40 +0000 Received: from phl-compute-05.internal (phl-compute-05.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailfhigh.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C304140028D; Thu, 7 Aug 2025 03:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-05.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 07 Aug 2025 03:17:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paquier.xyz; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1754551055; x=1754637455; bh=IJluouGh9j DlmZkwujosaiI3X5xUYCQcrjKaCerOBYM=; b=Ec29mzRT08QY3y6Q2OtrEIJ4PH j0iv+m+arDyZUZ3j9C46JGKYZ0/iVbheDiLVrsdrSUL4yTKUPvEuUqjGje/VwSzn 5EuKLSDtkf5n28TaV/B/3G9Yvc6lD7x4khrONDYrBWIvzu7Au7F2Lxux18wm29ML EZwK7rcS13OFGN4xsMJrEgeu3CFMFYFdBvC+xGMelSwsy1AP5Pvg+bfxeJsY83aF B5Ln6Spw4JicUjlEBmXweItUHaCAxfhPrHgzVGv0TyLZBigx8fYwlx+xjaL5kRBN 3ecfHzMuPG94BMEIhj6Xgfqx2WSBd+CG6m1o6Gmr6BXOfbfWhKhlcizq4tlQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t= 1754551055; x=1754637455; bh=IJluouGh9jDlmZkwujosaiI3X5xUYCQcrjK aCerOBYM=; b=T08sAld/osypqlH0HEy7iv5+72qKZ1dsmvkp3bRzfgLXJkvUFGQ fEQdOGLVGZd1Te193cVhyQb/bSTO66xe7LYFCMZsktP0UZbgRF12Zwa1m484Ys9H EPAed6Te2NaR3IFMwZKh5sc3rX4X2VhfUTaDkg97vLjxIn0GkLc389eR5bBpKZnM ro5RiIV7v0Gnjc/eCwNFBmbTwvjhMWgke8fb94D8JgAsXCtOcPXAhKmMd5PxoG3n p9iNdx8kkRp97kc4vVp2R0naeCdfKW8ONwa8sbGcEhKSNWfd2elwR9viZ5cKbMC2 JScXg0yHfWe/uVgXiX/vWTNxnTfJ2zGhAfQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdduvddtfeduucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceu rghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegfrh hlucfvnfffucdljedtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvvefukfhfgggtuggjsehgtderredttddv necuhfhrohhmpefoihgthhgrvghlucfrrghquhhivghruceomhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqh huihgvrhdrgiihiieqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteelieefudffhffhtdetleeggeeg fffhkeeuveetiefgudduvedutefggeeivdejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenuc frrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhitghhrggvlhesphgrqhhuihgvrhdrgiihiidp nhgspghrtghpthhtohepfedpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepsggvrh htrhgrnhguughrohhuvhhothdrphhgsehgmhgrihhlrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepkhho uhgsvghrsehgmhgrihhlrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepphhgshhqlhdqhhgrtghkvghrsh eslhhishhtshdrphhoshhtghhrvghsqhhlrdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i0fe9450f:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 7 Aug 2025 03:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 16:17:29 +0900 From: Michael Paquier To: Bertrand Drouvot Cc: Kouber Saparev , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: BF mamba failure Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C3ZMko6Ixn+ILWFc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk --C3ZMko6Ixn+ILWFc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 05:28:17AM +0000, Bertrand Drouvot wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 08:18:26AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 01:00:35PM +0300, Kouber Saparev wrote: >> You are close to wraparound for this relation. Is that vanilla >> streaming replication with heap? >=20 > I was wondering about adding the "generation" (introduced in 818119afccd3= ) to > the above error log message, thoughts? Yes, that could prove to be useful when debugging such issues. We do not have a lot of information here. -- Michael --C3ZMko6Ixn+ILWFc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEG72nH6vTowiyblFKnvQgOdbyQH0FAmiUUwkACgkQnvQgOdby QH1zkRAAoYZgzbZVJpErrHMaxo8NOWymQghg/stMCoQNzLxQ/qT+1Q3s9x6uRxkn x/nDB/W+/mfYuUVIEAMzs/4dsxT0ww62A5I2zgx4WBuNzzwAceBa4keueWEVqBzI EUBcCyN4+T8ExnLkjt3swa+fSwakFXOTJ2rNsl2MQQY6EoLZbTkrdEDF/nQLYv7U fHcjusmheXgnTVE4qb03ZEkH52+iMZmba4EAOWUwRVrYBAeXgiq521fWNUGTcLmX gvqNzxFqMcvKUzN22cdSWaigS9pWJ7DwCSBe3AwhiIAet12h3PMx9qgMK2H0qot/ mjUwZa/LmmQtVXTIY3QeB4coMMgJWS9cFVSpNMKu64aDhriBUKRL+bFUMf8nPhHB kOy/xiLNCF5g673r83otqQDV4iTQHE3qNVsKJ+O6XwncEnBABNU/Z4aTUPMfuTPw sRrXFUlr0Ed34QmlFI3L/aR9CkzHyAGiodzWdvh9MMX0upg2zRoUKMUXdoMcNZ2E KxwP7JDQSyPKMXS18CHf7MdhN56A2eZukQqevqW1hTuV/2v9ql3VwvcRPZGSqgj2 2atQ4XptO6E5i+cJhUyzrRfh3ofd7N+Z9x8R8D6rQCp+nrolGe9AQRjONOCtH6pD BGUswsZd6Ks1r+QTxW/ZrtOFJE/2zqiCVsoJ/rKa5eaju6+nwYk= =diKA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C3ZMko6Ixn+ILWFc--