Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1peuwS-0006FL-At for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1peuwR-00010y-1E for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:35 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1peuwQ-00010o-Mv for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:34 +0000 Received: from wnew1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.26]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1peuwN-0000g3-I4 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:33 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailnew.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3742B06915; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:39:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1679477968; x=1679485168; bh=lQ6ugBxycQcq9TPKoxNmJEs76YXGBxsjOEy YjqrXY80=; b=EllmHHM88bLGEIojA+otBEmr6Bd3CU2+FXiclge/wsXeDe5bWYQ JtXSmyqryAGSxmXqfa8wbonqosVon3JQVbSjdjlE9/HExufpu0XPJ9QSggNTZT+s a4ioyjfmWnNczUA0d4t5zji6yGkhJ/hkzGDU1OLp5cn6viFFCFgaIJDwbxze6UMb 8kr1gN4uVsVKoEvPd7EAXFsTqVtFlPn5FFi/CTu9PLNAcBBYUYAZ/tuQ6ZvTquk0 eNM+AlcCRaKv/bILVz33e80Vb40QzjC4UvQvHGYqLxA88xyFEug6dNISQEBZBxxI dwy6iFT6FZNLOVg8QklXYCWs8CgBfbEhBoQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdegvddgtdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvvehfhfgjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpefrvght vghrucfgihhsvghnthhrrghuthcuoehpvghtvghrrdgvihhsvghnthhrrghuthesvghnth gvrhhprhhishgvuggsrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeehleffgeegudejteei hfelteduvdeifffhffdvjedvffegjeekudeludehudeifeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehpvghtvghrrdgvihhsvghnthhrrghu thesvghnthgvrhhprhhishgvuggsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i131946ab:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:39:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Subject: Re: Commitfest 2023-03 starting tomorrow! Content-Language: en-US To: Alvaro Herrera , Thomas Munro Cc: Justin Pryzby , Peter Geoghegan , Greg Stark , "Gregory Stark (as CFM)" , Michael Paquier , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <20230321095920.nhf7scs3bqmgvpao@alvherre.pgsql> From: Peter Eisentraut In-Reply-To: <20230321095920.nhf7scs3bqmgvpao@alvherre.pgsql> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 21.03.23 10:59, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > This led me to suggesting that perhaps we need to be more lenient when > it comes to new contributors. As I said, for seasoned contributors, > it's not a problem to keep up with our requirements, however silly they > are. But people who spend their evenings a whole week or month trying > to understand how to patch for one thing that they want, to be received > by six months of silence followed by a constant influx of "please rebase > please rebase please rebase", no useful feedback, and termination with > "eh, you haven't rebased for the 1001th time, your patch has been WoA > for X days, we're setting it RwF, feel free to return next year" ... > they are most certainly off-put and will*not* try again next year. Personally, if a patch isn't rebased up to the minute doesn't bother me at all. It's easy to check out as of when the email was sent (or extra bonus points for using git format-patch --base). Now, rebasing every month or so is nice, but daily rebases during a commit fest are almost more distracting than just leaving it.