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Subject: Re: Order changes in PG16 since ICU introduction
From: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>, 'Peter Eisentraut'
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:50:41 -0700
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On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 16:00 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Maybe this means we are not ready to do ICU-by-default in v16.
> It certainly feels like there might be more here than we want to
> start designing post-feature-freeze.

I don't see how punting to the next release helps. If the CREATE
DATABASE syntax (and similar issues for createdb and initdb) in v15 is
just too confusing, and we can't find a remedy for v16, then we
probably won't find a remedy for v17 either.

Regards,
	Jeff Davis