Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wKVpB-0014BU-1H for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 06 May 2026 06:33:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wKVp9-00FD2B-2C for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 06 May 2026 06:33:35 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wKVp9-00FD23-13 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 06 May 2026 06:33:35 +0000 Received: from udcm-wwu2.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.28]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wKVp6-00000000mCT-3tMS for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 06 May 2026 06:33:35 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1778049213; x=1809585213; h=message-id:date:mime-version:subject:to:cc:references: from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ma5zlBZt6RaMEIys0FvSmn7gX/bUTMiyLbm05jXGBrk=; b=o0bwaYJ2Qmz3duDZNe4U3TzE9rRdSS61oKvXQaGZcjt2Fq4viYjUKpeQ y4EaWz0DJg0jmNYfDHRfhXd9NQOxNzWWv8wZ/avbfItXABLR5MHPVkDv5 tT8duiRYzISn/s0iG2zM+fbu0fDQpHziWtEz/1r0eoWM3NDjJ2lRLvzzk dvbg+kzlKkxN29bKJqbvDVVD4TjYc7vYfhMNSAJMZveOUd8GiTiO/8uZh tZLT5abT2FYjtJTB8bdwEceg3huGggzsenKK6brrQK9BC91vMZn0eqKYl s9A3t9m/zXJftG9qQToitGt+cHVcUS8oTLUlITuLkWlHSZ8Y+jkSKEy7y g==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: J6OYHjo+TCKPm10liFAJWA== X-CSE-MsgGUID: e+E3WKnURRiDnQgcSB1uWw== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.23,219,1770591600"; d="scan'208";a="393167812" Received: from secmail.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.4]) by UDCM-RELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP; 06 May 2026 08:33:31 +0200 Received: from [192.168.178.49] (dynamic-078-048-190-080.78.48.pool.telefonica.de [78.48.190.80]) by SECMAIL.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A6B420ADF02; Wed, 6 May 2026 08:33:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 08:33:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: VACUUM FULL, CLUSTER, and REPACK block on other sessions' temp tables To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro_Herrera?= Cc: Antonin Houska , Chao Li , Zsolt Parragi , PostgreSQL Hackers References: Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Jim Jones In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 05/05/2026 16:32, Álvaro Herrera wrote: > I decided against pushing the other patch. Although I would have > preferred to add a test, its cost seems not trivial: there are three > full-database scans in it (one for each command), and that seemed a bit > excessive. (There's also one extra initdb, but I'm not sure that part > is too bad since we've optimized that particular part.) Fair enough. > I also considered backpatching, since the code has been like this > essentially forever (i.e. at least since pg14). However, I don't > remember any complaints about this and I would hate to destabilize > things for people without an excellent reason. Maybe we can reconsider > after this month's minors, if somebody shows up with vehement opinions > about it. Yeah, since pretty much nobody complained about it, I guess it's indeed safer to leave it in PG19. Thanks for pushing it! Best, Jim