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On 2024-06-12 We 18:43, Jelte Fennema-Nio wrote:
>
> I agree it's not a technical issue. It is a people issue. There are
> very few people skilled in Perl active in the community. And most of
> those are very senior hackers that have much more important things to
> do that make our Perl testing framework significantly better. And the
> less senior people that might see improving tooling as a way to get
> help out in the community, are try to stay away from Perl with a 10
> foot pole. So the result is, nothing gets improved. Especially since
> very few people outside our community improve this tooling either.
>
>   


FTR, I have put a lot of effort into maintaining and improving the 
infrastructure over the years. And I don't think there is anything much 
more important. So I'm going to put more effort in. And I'm not alone. 
Andres, Alvaro, Noah and Thomas are some of those who have spent a lot 
of effort on extending and improving our testing.

People tend to get a bit hung up about languages. I lost count of the 
various languages I had learned when it got somewhere north of 30.

Still, I understand that perl has a few oddities that make people 
scratch their heads (as do most languages). It's probably losing market 
share, along with some of the other things we rely on. Not sure that 
alone is a reason to move away from it.


cheers


andrew

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