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[99.10.92.30]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c82sm6883455ywb.109.2019.12.06.14.11.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 14:11:11 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Dunstan X-Google-Original-From: Andrew Dunstan Subject: Re: Windows buildfarm members vs. new async-notify isolation test To: Amit Kapila Cc: Tom Lane , Mark Dilger , PostgreSQL Hackers References: <32745.1575303812@sss.pgh.pa.us> <7221b3b4-fc7f-404d-5cf6-830d3aa6800d@2ndQuadrant.com> <362bca0b-1c1c-c760-ab19-b5d9a14c69ea@gmail.com> <13003.1575391248@sss.pgh.pa.us> <25746.1575436347@sss.pgh.pa.us> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=andrew.dunstan@2ndQuadrant.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBE7KWFkBCAClridxur2AIc7eW2AR7izbfp3EnNefie2HbLF0izW5Ik5UjX2HBXBx4syI gY6b0ugohXrr274+baoAlvSbq6cAoQuEVrk5IZFzt20b1Xkx65FwGSEj526yiKLocqkJceSq Xr9xcA5SGY+FZv441chh5SU92v4q6z+6LPpoHOh97ptAVXZYNTtU0LevyvD5lja0TzbvJm6C eFXitJfnm1pLEr0DGJCR/iUOl/N62Kh4855zZC7NHIjQHPOvV5Stz/l5ilDhvGVk+xkXFPys SjZoUr1rXhYLpiyi5sR0X9FHXT0KnGuz1F5ERO7ZTLSSQ6fJwPj6gOk9K+vvoKvoeql5ABEB AAHNL0FuZHJldyBEdW5zdGFuIDxhbmRyZXcuZHVuc3RhbkAybmRRdWFkcmFudC5jb20+wsCY BBMBAgBCAhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBOQ+WEYd/Hy/RGkVpZn6f8tZ /DuBAhkBBQJd1pSYBQkSzqMsAAoJEJn6f8tZ/DuBJmEIAIVFBIC3qGqh+YTPVTkfowwxpHz0 tZSPjZ6GS/5y62kgoZrZOVXw+Rg2ceuMM3a+In/RRjTx4bembgYqRKgzXlDfiNBJeq5ioVuN H1faDKE2lm5a6QkRQ2JU6DKf60fqSJGP5LisCUr1V0wz6EnlO31ArrKtXCNB+yk0KDAS6o6I Ql4pkXpr+vq4iilwJmiJOqTBam0LmQE7ulYCCYU8Z6MkpiSl+dO7QSramcGyxauQRI3a7gcq dpo8Vrv3gFTQDeMYxk7cqZp08pIVH5XR0+LgBz4X84f59rA/VAKlC/r6CyEQk59rvDLxCMyP 2buoj51Z25N3MVghRDGcsU6mT7fOwE0ETspYWQEIANGc4zQULOxhbqO2dyD51YhqCNRmm9oK Waqf+wmW4tpDe/VVcxAnNizd4LWCHfzpb5cHAtGkOPePMfzWVf6nvdF7d3eglbtf59+zG7O7 llV0xSSoFiieQBsrGvqDInXYX/4mRRXMtyhM353/tixC9RWLs1oofyYmCPPXXY7h9R7en3B8 BoVrRFcdzlIY/NFNhFGW/9dkEiGjgna2Rk6e15kln4ZvFBWUg23p93w/pqXcxY6+k/8TEk+C 4R+M6w7o2PLGOjdZ+kPiUcw5H85zf/yZJwQXzisXaNduwWB6Vads9YC9dj6kPR1c4VGRqAaY L++LAEOqrlvm2TvqQqZRtnEAEQEAAcLAZQQYAQIADwIbDAUCXdaUtAUJEs6jVQAKCRCZ+n/L Wfw7gQi5B/9sHbmRloZNCWWwZGm+O9iG/JGQxS0WWa4GaZqzqSTWOft2/gO0Bgag89r1djq4 PFgSZtzHvKQpqYz/7HkPrWh1jpcS83i/uYY1uyHXUUtpdEmn4buNObEtD0YNaJkGdhASsECq 6akw+u7WJYmAHs/SpR6ok6HqLw7JHDVc2h5dViLfTk0qrgDa7sq/LVMoJje5Ct/Ku3YaWAV6 YSmzoPP5BmPVFqP11OMQkCqurIu9vTLXKFWX623vCmqRDHJ6e5GCDHbH8USU+4wJBfPymZkd cA7NGm/mmWeJiWBFIDyjzYxrjku8ty9TZJVsaRXnS+OFQzXz9Eu2wTpKdHij46uY Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 17:11:10 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-MW List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 12/5/19 4:37 AM, Amit Kapila wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:51 PM Andrew Dunstan > wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:12 AM Tom Lane wrote: >>> Amit Kapila writes: >>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:10 PM Tom Lane wrote: >>>>> Hmm ... just looking at the code again, could it be that there's >>>>> no well-placed CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS? Andrew, could you see if >>>>> injecting one in what 790026972 added to postgres.c helps? >>>> I also tried to analyze this failure and it seems this is a good bet, >>>> but I am also wondering why we have never seen such a timing issue in >>>> other somewhat similar tests. For ex., one with comment (# >>>> Cross-backend notification delivery.). Do they have a better way of >>>> ensuring that the notification will be received or is it purely >>>> coincidental that they haven't seen such a symptom? >>> TBH, my bet is that this *won't* fix it, but it seemed like an easy >>> thing to test. For this to fix it, you'd have to suppose that we >>> never do a CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS during a COMMIT command, which is >>> improbable at best. >>> >> >> You win your bet. Tried this on frogmouth and it still failed. >> > IIUC, this means that commit (step l2commit) is finishing before the > notify signal is reached that session. If so, can we at least confirm > that by adding something like select pg_sleep(1) in that step? So, > l2commit will be: step "l2commit" { SELECT pg_sleep(1); COMMIT; }. I > think we can try by increasing sleep time as well to confirm the > behavior if required. > Yeah, with the sleep in there the NOTIFY is seen. cheers andrew -- Andrew Dunstan https://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services