Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t4vNo-0034CY-QZ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 05:00:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t4vNm-00Dz19-NU for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 05:00:07 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t4vNm-00Dz10-D8 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 05:00:06 +0000 Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::230]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1t4vNk-003CA8-9X for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 05:00:06 +0000 Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2fb3110b964so26126621fa.1 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1730005203; x=1730610003; darn=postgresql.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AqCy+nPdn4x1cFIqcNPDja+MJYoDkEZOk0GPExjtB60=; b=c5HdX7d98kOnJ/LrurCAT7MvYV07tC3PmEzhQufNUt+bYLlqLYtbpH2se0o+2pFbMO 36svPMXXqpCbIhMZhQYMjiKI2yJ5xbsRFoW9/rs3iFKOznWbDOcFTRD89GOo2WKEQxQM H/NidAN0YXUx7DKCLVJ1J+TGS5ilpF+e9Xe+/JlC/qWIifD+aN0Ov0yu1xjcV6Lu7LMH nXdHe+SfnEpczzK4t11jXDYKDDZhROg1krttBzNCNmjzNGfAjO5LtciLia/CHL77PpQP atQrocKOR7yPGj0dqeL+lOuhfwu4slZn08DY4E1NKhe0eC8Acf+o/0WYL4TxpMY7ZPzR R1ZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1730005203; x=1730610003; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AqCy+nPdn4x1cFIqcNPDja+MJYoDkEZOk0GPExjtB60=; b=ndY3LRCGejCWeLCftKaL+QnWlceEVm27zuI2d95BFmDA/u7G8Jp4h8j4TnJX9iHgF1 7L9MoDLkZ2T8pD1KZNTiRtruNP5iHwJ2DQPau/qDIyqD1X96IWr8xBa1bI6li8TtsEqG BFtTuMG0YXWuUajwDrdSU236TNR+VV0NFaromn5fsqo3HI1ceGhhb5wszbDS8qA4pLRD MxMhRcGgZWDkVEI0zEeaHDqbvg633lo/Pkiugb/CatZbB7GOfOKlrqJnOV2VtluPuBKs I2e9pKYupl3zzog5pAQMOiOx8VAqQODBRaziU9BOWtJJARIzTMCDD9TRIjgYiktQebmm H3TA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCU4OAkRB9g/2j847H0bYIVCgvrlFtXb0x1ADPRI9DpEj2jISB4yabNU+L39bb3x1EKEaFGxf9G55EFm1c/V@postgresql.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzbF/rSuJ6M138HdeKZ2TyD71BWZFIghpsim+B1V3KpWGpn+B+a 5QSxPSKiZBSFIUt+hZjovgPR3MrvWvGTcEwTjDHppq9U0V9NSHH9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEXg/KH6FqvWUt5e7FHZD6/aT4Wk9Q/G+MmHPDs7RWONa7brPcwaJ0EYf6+x8o0LSDXW5c/cg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1548:b0:2fb:6110:c5cb with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2fcbe08cf6amr12819531fa.34.1730005202095; Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [1.0.0.7] ([178.155.31.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-2fcb4618b4asm7414101fa.131.2024.10.26.22.00.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 08:00:00 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Subject: Re: heap_inplace_lock vs. autovacuum w/ LOCKTAG_TUPLE Content-Language: en-US To: Noah Misch , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <20241026184936.ae.nmisch@google.com> <20241027040928.9e.nmisch@google.com> From: Alexander Lakhin In-Reply-To: <20241027040928.9e.nmisch@google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hello Noah, 27.10.2024 07:09, Noah Misch wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 11:49:36AM -0700, Noah Misch wrote: >> intra-grant-inplace-db.spec got a novel failure today: >> https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=sarus&dt=2024-10-26%2014%3A08%3A58 >> >> The isolationtester_waiting query is supposed to detect that step vac2 is >> blocked. vac2 didn't finish within the timeout, but isolationtester_waiting >> never considered it blocked. >> ... work on reproducing this. FWIW, there was a similar failure in August: [1], and I also could not reproduce that locally, yet wrote a preliminary analysis at [2] in the Unsorted section, in the hope to see it again and continue investigation. [1] https://buildfarm.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=iguana&dt=2024-08-29%2013%3A57%3A57 [2] https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Known_Buildfarm_Test_Failures Best regards, Alexander