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[85.7.172.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3663a8c8954sm15970375f8f.98.2024.06.26.08.53.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 26 Jun 2024 08:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wrong security context for deferred triggers? From: Laurenz Albe To: "David G. 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Johnston wrote: > We have a few choices then: > 1. Status quo=C2=A0+ documentation backpatch > 2. Change v18 narrowly + documentation backpatch > 3. Backpatch narrowly (one infers the new behavior after reading the exis= ting documentation) > 4. Option 1, plus a new v18 owner-execution mode in lieu of the narrow ch= ange to fix the POLA violation >=20 > I've been presenting option 4. >=20 > Pondering further, I see now that having the owner-execution mode be the = only way to avoid > the POLA violation in deferred triggers isn't great since many triggers b= enefit from the > implied security of being able to run in the invoker's execution context = - especially if > the trigger doesn't do anything that PUBLIC cannot already do. >=20 > So, I'm on board with option 2 at this point. Nice. I think we can safely rule out option 3. Even if it is a bug, it is not one that has bothered anybody so far that a = backpatch is indicated. Yours, Laurenz Albe