X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143E79DCC87 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:16:07 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67010-03 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:16:09 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from floppy.pyrenet.fr (floppy.pyrenet.fr [194.116.145.2]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306E09DCBFB for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:16:01 -0400 (AST) Received: by floppy.pyrenet.fr (Postfix, from userid 106) id A288030F24; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:16:06 +0100 (MET) From: Christopher Browne X-Newsgroups: pgsql.hackers Subject: Re: New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:06:00 -0800 Organization: cbbrowne Computing Inc Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <1138668525.643.59.camel@evim.gunduz.org> <1138698969.643.112.camel@evim.gunduz.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.hub.org X-message-flag: Outlook is rather hackable, isn't it? X-Home-Page: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/ X-Affero: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3D9oDXWbSBJTZ7tRR8ZXZY4GN40= To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.252 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.252] X-Spam-Score: 0.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200601/999 X-Sequence-Number: 79103 > Hi, > > On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:35 -0800, Christopher Browne wrote: >> > We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please >> > drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use >> > Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We >> > are in planning phase, if you join us earlier, we will be able to >> > share more ideas. >> >> You'd better define the purpose pretty clearly, as I don't see any >> purpose that's of value, yet. > > I agree with Joshua's points here. Think of people who do not want > an installation via command line. When virtually every flavour of Unix has its own package manager, I have difficulty distinguishing this from the "badness" of how Oracle's installer handles things. The people I imagine would be of interest as plausible new users are the ones that don't want to be troubled with configuring pretty well anything at all, command line or no. The sort of thing that would get PostgreSQL much more widely deployed would be (for instance) for applications like GnuCash or components of GNOME/KDE to adopt it as their storage mechanism. Their developers are not particularly interested in doing a lot of DBA work, e.g. - setting up users, pg_hba.conf, and such. (The need for this is one of the reasons the GnuCash people have been biasing towards SQLite...) It's worth noting that GNOME/KDE projects have NOT attempted to build their own GUI installers except in the forms of very platform-specific things. In that regard, they let each platform have its own set of "idioms." -- let name="cbbrowne" and tld="gmail.com" in String.concat "@" [name;tld];; http://cbbrowne.com/info/slony.html CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage: "Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were damaged, with 95 uninhabitable. Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County a disaster area. Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."