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From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
To: Gurjeet Singh <gurjeet@singh.im>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: harmonize password reuse in vacuumdb, clusterdb, and reindexdb
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 13:47:44 -0700
Message-ID: <20230717204744.GA890035@nathanxps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230629052409.GB2049807@nathanxps13>
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 10:24:09PM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 09:20:03PM -0700, Gurjeet Singh wrote:
>> The comment on top of connect_utils.c:connectDatabase() seems pertinent:
>> 
>>> (Callers should not pass
>>> * allow_password_reuse=true unless reconnecting to the same database+user
>>> * as before, else we might create password exposure hazards.)
>> 
>> The callers of {cluster|reindex}_one_database() (which in turn call
>> connectDatabase()) clearly pass different database names in successive
>> calls to these functions. So the patch seems to be in conflict with
>> the recommendation in the comment.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if the concern raised in that comment is a legitimate
>> one, though. I mean, if the password is reused to connect to a
>> different database in the same cluster/instance, which I think is
>> always the case with these utilities, the password will exposed in the
>> server logs (if at all). And since the admins of the instance already
>> have full control over the passwords of the user, I don't think this
>> patch will give them any more information than what they can get
>> anyways.
>> 
>> It is a valid concern, though, if the utility connects to a different
>> instance in the same run/invocation, and hence exposes the password
>> from the first instance to the admins of the second cluster.
> 
> The same commit that added this comment (ff402ae) also set the
> allow_password_reuse parameter to true in vacuumdb's connectDatabase()
> calls.  I found a message from the corresponding thread that provides some
> additional detail [0].  I wonder if this comment should instead recommend
> against using the allow_password_reuse flag unless reconnecting to the same
> host/port/user target.  Connecting to different databases with the same
> host/port/user information seems okay.  Maybe I am missing something... 

Here is a new version of the patch in which I've updated this comment as
proposed.  Gurjeet, do you have any other concerns about this patch?

-- 
Nathan Bossart
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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v2-0001-harmonize-password-reuse-in-vacuumdb-clusterdb-an.patch (text/x-diff, 3.3K) download From 85d0a1bbe62c4cc01b3fdba7c653f95b8472cc7a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nathan Bossart <nathan@postgresql.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:38:24 -0700 Subject: [PATCH v2 1/1] harmonize password reuse in vacuumdb, clusterdb, and reindexdb --- doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml | 14 -------------- doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml | 13 ------------- src/bin/scripts/clusterdb.c | 2 +- src/bin/scripts/reindexdb.c | 2 +- src/fe_utils/connect_utils.c | 2 +- 5 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml index 8cb8bf4fa3..8d9ced212f 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/reindexdb.sgml @@ -432,20 +432,6 @@ PostgreSQL documentation </refsect1> - - <refsect1> - <title>Notes</title> - - <para> - <application>reindexdb</application> might need to connect several - times to the <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> server, asking - for a password each time. It is convenient to have a - <filename>~/.pgpass</filename> file in such cases. See <xref - linkend="libpq-pgpass"/> for more information. - </para> - </refsect1> - - <refsect1> <title>Examples</title> diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml index da2393783b..09356ea4fa 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/vacuumdb.sgml @@ -605,19 +605,6 @@ PostgreSQL documentation </refsect1> - - <refsect1> - <title>Notes</title> - - <para> - <application>vacuumdb</application> might need to connect several - times to the <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> server, asking - for a password each time. It is convenient to have a - <filename>~/.pgpass</filename> file in such cases. See <xref - linkend="libpq-pgpass"/> for more information. - </para> - </refsect1> - <refsect1> <title>Examples</title> diff --git a/src/bin/scripts/clusterdb.c b/src/bin/scripts/clusterdb.c index 58a774013b..65428031c7 100644 --- a/src/bin/scripts/clusterdb.c +++ b/src/bin/scripts/clusterdb.c @@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ cluster_one_database(const ConnParams *cparams, const char *table, PGconn *conn; - conn = connectDatabase(cparams, progname, echo, false, false); + conn = connectDatabase(cparams, progname, echo, false, true); initPQExpBuffer(&sql); diff --git a/src/bin/scripts/reindexdb.c b/src/bin/scripts/reindexdb.c index 5b297d1dc1..002c41f221 100644 --- a/src/bin/scripts/reindexdb.c +++ b/src/bin/scripts/reindexdb.c @@ -315,7 +315,7 @@ reindex_one_database(ConnParams *cparams, ReindexType type, bool failed = false; int items_count = 0; - conn = connectDatabase(cparams, progname, echo, false, false); + conn = connectDatabase(cparams, progname, echo, false, true); if (concurrently && PQserverVersion(conn) < 120000) { diff --git a/src/fe_utils/connect_utils.c b/src/fe_utils/connect_utils.c index 7a1edea7c8..7d45f5c609 100644 --- a/src/fe_utils/connect_utils.c +++ b/src/fe_utils/connect_utils.c @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ * * If allow_password_reuse is true, we will try to re-use any password * given during previous calls to this routine. (Callers should not pass - * allow_password_reuse=true unless reconnecting to the same database+user + * allow_password_reuse=true unless reconnecting to the same host+port+user * as before, else we might create password exposure hazards.) */ PGconn * -- 2.25.1

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