X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Received: from fuji.krosing.net (unknown [194.204.44.104]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C45475FD5 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fuji.krosing.net (lo [127.0.0.1]) by fuji.krosing.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2GKfGV9001858; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:41:17 +0200 Received: (from hannu@localhost) by fuji.krosing.net (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h2GKfFq3001856; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:41:15 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: fuji.krosing.net: hannu set sender to hannu@tm.ee using -f Subject: Re: Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign From: Hannu Krosing To: Tom Lane Cc: Greg Stark , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <21985.1047662106@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <19041.1047322279@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3E6EEA9B.3050201@xythos.com> <27307.1047485980@sss.pgh.pa.us> <87r89ac6s4.fsf@stark.dyndns.tv> <21985.1047662106@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1047847275.1789.7.camel@fuji.krosing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-1) Date: 16 Mar 2003 22:41:15 +0200 X-Archive-Number: 200303/659 X-Sequence-Number: 36905 Tom Lane kirjutas R, 14.03.2003 kell 19:15: > Greg Stark writes: > > So, just to throw out a wild idea: If you're talking about making large > > changes to the on-the-wire protocol. Have you considered using an existing > > database protocol? > > Yeah, I have. Didn't look promising --- there's no percentage unless > we're 100% compatible, which creates a lot of problems (eg, can't ship > type OIDs to frontend anymore). Surely there is a way to ship type info, even for UDT's (user defined types) as nowadays most big databases support those. > What I actually looked into was RDA, but I doubt that TDS would be any > closer to our needs... I remember someone started cleaning up IO in order to move it into a separate module with the aim of making multiple implementations (RDA, TDS, XML, native JDBC wire protocol if it ever becomes a reality, etc.) possible. While not exactly pertinent to new wire protocol this effort if completed would make it much easier to have backwards compatibility on the wire level. ------------ Hannu PS. Another feature I'd like is individually turning off warnings and notices. ------------ Hannu